A completely irrelevant side point, looking at some of the pictures from camp. Looks like JJB turns up to training with all his Grand Final winners rings on...

Never known someone to be so "Leeds". Talks about how Agar has allowed him to look at creating a culture. Only time will tell I suppose...

jobs for the boys. hive him a job but not this one

Coaching meetings could take a while with JJB waffling on about John the Baptist and Moses in the reeds.

Im sure the novelty of wearing Leeds Rhinos coaching tops hasnt worn off yet either.

It depends what kind of coaching mix we want. Jonesy will be superb for atttiude and heart, teamwork. We have lacked that at times.

Coaching is a team affair as much as the playing staff are these days. What we do need to have is technical excellence and nous/tactics (something we’ve DEFINITELY lacked).

I for one like JJB in the coaching set up. Actually the next step is probably to replace Agar in due course and allow him to take on more back office/development role, when the time is right.

Bottom line is there have been so many changes at Leeds during this transition that we’re going to have to judge performances on the field for a while and be patient while it settles a bit.

Agreed, whilst we are always going to have opinions on here, it really is difficult for us to judge an appointment like this without knowing the ins and outs of the day to day training and running of the squad, we're just going to have see how the new set up goes.

FWIW my prediction is we will surprise a few this year but won't be challenging for silverware bar a favourable CC draw. 5th is my prediction with some great wins and some poor losses along the way. I just hope we can get a good win to loss ratio in the first 10-12 games to make sure were not scraping around the bottom of the table again, 8 wins from 12 would see me very happy and should mean we won't be in a relegation scrap bar a spectacular collapse in form.

Seriously Christopher, what would be the surprise in that? that is a e season by anyones standard for a top club, not challenging for honours. That should be a bare minimum.

I said last year when Furner went on here, what I thought would happen at this club, and I said it fearing the worst. Unfortunately, although I didn't 100% believe it, that has happend. The coaching set up is an absolute joke, and no doubt despite the results that will come there will still be people somehow defending it and blaming something else.

For me despite Jjb being a Club Legend & someone id like to see have a "job for life" that shouldnt include the Assist 1st Team Coaching job.
I dont think Agar is good enough as it is but to not employ a qualified Coach as assistent is ridiculous what with having Webster here P/T aswell why not re-sign Eaton & Lowes.
Losing Carr couldnt be avoided not replacing him with at least 1 like for like Coach is negligent.

The Surprise would be that we actually play well, I think many are thinking we will be dire again this season.

Sinfield said it would take a few years to rebuild the club and I think that is the case, of course the minimum for a top club should be challenging for honours but on the field we haven’t been a top club for a food few years, that will take time to correct, I’ll judge the playing and coaching roster when I’ve seen more of them in action, it’s pointless writing them off before the season starts

Surely Webster is the like for like replacement he’s literally doing the same role

JJB will be great for team morale. I dont know about his coaching ability. I expected him to take a career in the media, an MC on game shows and the occasional cameo drama appearance etc . Are Agar and JJB going to do " Good cop bad cop" ? If so who will be bad cop ?

I understand the comments about jobs for the boys, especially with JJB being best mates with Sinfield. That said, for such a high profile job, and after the Furner debacle, I'm sure Sinfield would have thought long and hard about this, and the risks of it not working. He wouldn't have made the appointment if he didn't think JJB had the attributes to succeed in the role.

I'm in the cautious optimism camp on this one. Sinfield will have limited input into the coaching of the team, but JJB's appointment allows us to directly harness and retain the experience of one of our 'Golden Generation'. JJB benefited from playing in all the winning teams from 2004 - 2017, with many different star players and coaches around him to learn what made the team successful. He's also a deep thinker on the game, perhaps in the vein of Brian Mac (?), which is potentially better than bringing in an identikit NRL assistant type. Time will tell.

Primarily, this should be in the hands of the lads on the field.
For me, he has to bring more to the table. Worryingly, hardly anyone seems to be making the case that he can.

Agar has said what a great thinker of the game JJB is. Hes been very impressed with the depth hes gone to in some of his coaching sessions. I'm quite positive at the moment about this.

I meant in quality mate the improvements when Carr arrived were there for all to see.
Webster has had Coaching jobs elsewhere & imo he's a meh appointment.
We needed imo at least 1 quality FT assistent personally im not convinced by any of them.

Because we can't make that case neither for or against, none if us know what has gone on or what goes on within the squad, as fun as it is on here, it's ultimately all supposition.