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Quote: christopher "Or more importantly isn't foresight a wonderful thing
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You’ve got to back the club’s call sometimes; they see players every day, monitor them, test them. Clearly Garbutt is one of the best props in SL when fit, anyone can see that - but if the club thought he was shot then it was the right decision. The player is never going to like to hear that because they don’t want to believe it’s true, or for that prognosis to get out to market and effect their earning potential.

The mistake we did make was not adequately replacing him (could say the same thing for McDermott, Peacock and Leuluai too though).

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Never had a problem with the call by KS re-Garbutt it was the sheer hypocrisy that followed re-Ablett Jjb & Crosby all RE-Signed by Sinfield.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Never had a problem with the call by KS re-Garbutt it was the sheer hypocrisy that followed re-Ablett Jjb & Crosby all RE-Signed by Sinfield.'"

Well, it’s fair to say there might have been some additional good will shown to JJB and Ablett. I don’t really have a problem with it and neither would have wanted or expected to be so blighted by injuries this year.
Crosby, I scratch my head over. I’m not sure he was ever that good a player to begin with but we have bent over massively for him. Hopefully he comes back next year and adds something.
Donaldson has worked out quite well though.
Back to Myler, if we are paying him that much more than anyone else is prepared to match now, just another example of mismanagement. He’s not been in poor form for us, he’s tried hard.
Hopefully he can find a better gig somewhere and both parties can move on.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Well, it’s fair to say there might have been some additional good will shown to JJB and Ablett. I don’t really have a problem with it and neither would have wanted or expected to be so blighted by injuries this year.
Crosby, I scratch my head over. I’m not sure he was ever that good a player to begin with but we have bent over massively for him. Hopefully he comes back next year and adds something.
Donaldson has worked out quite well though.
Back to Myler, if we are paying him that much more than anyone else is prepared to match now, just another example of mismanagement. He’s not been in poor form for us, he’s tried hard.
Hopefully he can find a better gig somewhere and both parties can move on.'"


I'm not sure we have bent over massively for Crosby, he signed after playing at the back end of 2018, how were the club to know he would have a bad injury and be out for the year? We don't know what sort of contract he is on and you never know he may turn out to be a good addition next year, he was a good player and he's still relatively young.

JJB and Ablett (especially JJB) I believe were given deals more for the roles they play within the club as much as on the field.

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Crosby has had a really rough few years for lots of reasons. Whilst he might not be the best prop in the wold, he would be fine as part of a good 4 prop March day rotation.

Given what he’s been through it’s commendable the club have stood by him the way they have. I don’t get the impression the kid is a shirker.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Never had a problem with the call by KS re-Garbutt it was the sheer hypocrisy that followed re-Ablett Jjb & Crosby all RE-Signed by Sinfield.'"

Totally agree. Too much sentiment in our retention policy for 2019. Sinfield needed to be more ruthless. These players have served the club well but this is a professional sport not a charity. We have a better pair of halves now for 2020, so it's time for Myler to be shown the exit door.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Crosby has had a really rough few years for lots of reasons. Whilst he might not be the best prop in the wold, he would be fine as part of a good 4 prop March day rotation.

Given what he’s been through it’s commendable the club have stood by him the way they have. I don’t get the impression the kid is a shirker.'"

For me it’s either Crosby or Singleton but not both.

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Maybe he could reunite with Lolohea as a replacement for Hastings.

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Quote: Seth "Maybe he could reunite with Lolohea as a replacement for Hastings.'"

They've already signed Kev Brown for that.

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Quote: christopher "I'm not sure we have bent over massively for Crosby, he signed after playing at the back end of 2018, how were the club to know he would have a bad injury and be out for the year? We don't know what sort of contract he is on and you never know he may turn out to be a good addition next year, he was a good player and he's still relatively young.

JJB and Ablett (especially JJB) I believe were given deals more for the roles they play within the club as much as on the field.'"

Crosby arrived banged up & still got given a 3yr deal so like i said hypocrisy.
Sinfield is & always will be our greatest ever Captain & imo our no1 Club Legend for his exploits on the pitch.
However as a DOR the jury is very much still out also wrt Ablett & Jjb who gives contracts on sentiment?

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Crosby arrived banged up & still got given a 3yr deal so like i said hypocrisy.
Sinfield is & always will be our greatest ever Captain & imo our no1 Club Legend for his exploits on the pitch.
However as a DOR the jury is very much still out also wrt Ablett & Jjb who gives contracts on sentiment?'"

Leeds do and its this loyalty to players that has made them the great club they are. Yes they've had a couple of years in the doldrums but every one of us expects to see them back at the top. I Beleive it's going to take longer than some are hoping for. Anyone who thinks you can stay at the top ad infinitum are delusional. Sport and business is cyclical

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "They've already signed Kev Brown for that.'"

That pairing really will be a test for Watson's coaching credentials. It'll be a shame to see Salford fall away next year and not build on a remarkable seasom, but with the players they have leaving it seems inevitable unfortunately.

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Quote: LeedsLurch "Leeds do and its this loyalty to players that has made them the great club they are. Yes they've had a couple of years in the doldrums but every one of us expects to see them back at the top. I Beleive it's going to take longer than some are hoping for. Anyone who thinks you can stay at the top ad infinitum are delusional. Sport and business is cyclical'"

Who said anything about staying at the top ad infinitum.
Also this Loyalty to players what happend with Senior Lauititi Mcguire Mcdermott etc?
When their time was deemed up they were moved on just as Ablett & Jjb should have been it was KS looking after his mates as good as they've been they were both done.

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Was it Sinfield looking after his mates or did he just feel a bit of experience would help the group?

I personally would have got rid of both at end of 2018 but can understand why the club chose not to.

Sinfield will do what he thinks is right for Leeds.

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