Warrington had won 2 of 6 at this point last year and they were in a very similar position wise as us with new players and a new coach

I'm OK with 9th/10th if we play entertaining rugby when we can and start to blood some of the outstanding kids. I don't think we should underestimate just how bad we were last year.

I'd really only be upset if we finish that low and don't blood new players.

Hasn't Furner been an attacking coach for Souths for a couple of seasons? that's probably his strength and to be fair we look like a totally different side attacking wise this year.

Our defence is a massive issue though, which is disappointing as in the 2 warm up games I thought we actually looked quite strong in that department

Me too. I think Furner is giving established players a decent chance to prove their worth or see if they fit with his plans; i expect big moves in the ins outs again through the summer too and Furner to be able to bring in the players he wants.

I thought Lowes was the defensive coach!

Aaaah...

Furner has some big calls to make this season on some “established” players as well as the ones we already know are on the fringes.

We have another full year and some salary cap space available for 2020 squad. On the positive side, if Furner gets players who can defend, I think he can coach arrack well and we could be in with a shout again reasonably quickly.

Lowes is just a gofer. His main task on Friday evening was to set out the cones for the warm up and bring out the tackling shields. In saying that he still put in more effort than Sutcliffe and Ferris.

My worst fears about the start of this season when I saw the fixture list have come true. I thought we'd do well to win 2 from first 5 games and I was right. I feared our confidence and the fans confidence would take a hit and nightmares of last season would surface and again that's what's happening.

Big big performance needed against hull but I fear the worst again

We have named Scott Taylor in our 19. No comment from the club yet but we had a reserve fixture on WCC weekend and it would appear that this has counted towards his ban since there was no first team game that week.

Great loophole!

No Watkins, I never tgought Id say this but I think that will actually help us!

Ablett and Walker back in the squad.

I would like to see Newman in for Watkins but I suspect it will be Sutcliffe

Walker
Briscoe
Hurrell
Handley
Lolohea
Myler
Cuthbertson
Parcell
Singleton
Merrin
Ablett
Dwyer
Sutcliffe
Peteru
Ferres
Oledzki
Smith
Donaldson
Newman

Walker
Briscoe Newman Hurrell Handley
Lolohea Myler
Peteru Dwyer Singleton
Ablett Ferres
Merrin

Parcell Oledzki Cuthbertson Sutcliffe / Donaldson / Smith

Newman is way of super league standard yet i would only use him out of desperation.