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| Don't know why people are trying to fit Golding in the team somewhere, whilst being a fairly game lad and not knocking his enthusiasm, I've never really thought he was anywhere near the required standard to command a starting spot in our team.
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| just thinking out loud really. for me walkers the best by a long way
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| Quote: FGB "Don't know why people are trying to fit Golding in the team somewhere, whilst being a fairly game lad and not knocking his enthusiasm, I've never really thought he was anywhere near the required standard to command a starting spot in our team.'"
This is the reason all clubs should run a reserve side imo. Then it'd allow players to work on different positions /push first tamers
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| Quote: tad rhino "goldings really filling out. wonder how he'd go at centre?'"
This is when a reserve grade would be useful. Golding could play a few games at reserve grade, learn to play centre and see how he goes.
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| Quote: tad rhino "brad godden wasn't that big iirc. I think golding is bif enough and good enough in defence. whether he has the skills is another arguement'"
He had a bit of the Scott Gibbs - same width as height. But generally Sal is spot on.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "The game isn't what it was in the 60s/70s - There are only 2 centres in SL worth mentioning Watkins - who is the size of a second row and Percival who is almost as big.
In the NRL the centres the best ones in recent years
Of course the game has changed since the 60s / 70s but you were the one to use Ashton and Newlove etc as examples of large centres. I gave examples of smaller centres who were just as good.
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Back play has deteriorated in recent years and the policy, you seem to advocate, of choosing on physique rather that skill is one of the reasons for the decline.
A centre first and foremost should have the speed and ability to make breaks or half breaks and then have the awareness and ability to create space and offload to others. This means good feet, good hands and good rugby intelligence. Of course he has to defend but this does not mean he has to bve the size of a second rower.
So there is no reason a player the size of Golding or Walker cannot make a fine centre.
It is this obsession with size over skill especially in the development years that has failed to produce the Hepworth and Hardistys for the modern game. We have to make room for the smaller players who have pace and skills.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Of course the game has changed since the 60s / 70s but you were the one to use Ashton and Newlove etc as examples of large centres. I gave examples of smaller centres who were just as good.
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Back play has deteriorated in recent years and the policy, you seem to advocate, of choosing on physique rather that skill is one of the reasons for the decline.
A centre first and foremost should have the speed and ability to make breaks or half breaks and then have the awareness and ability to create space and offload to others. This means good feet, good hands and good rugby intelligence. Of course he has to defend but this does not mean he has to bve the size of a second rower.
So there is no reason a player the size of Golding or Walker cannot make a fine centre.
It is this obsession with size over skill especially in the development years that has failed to produce the Hepworth and Hardistys for the modern game. We have to make room for the smaller players who have pace and skills.'"
Didn't Newlove play in the 90's/2000's?
The game isn't just about attacking - the centre has to be able to tackle effectively - not easy to tackle a 16 stone juggernaut when you only weight 12/13 stone and are 6" shorter.
Even hookers are 6" and most half backs are 5'10"+ this is the modern game - players are bigger and stronger with just as much skill. In the older days the game was much slower so the players had the time - look at old games and see how slow it was - these players would not have the time to play the way they did - Im sure they would have adapted.
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| Wow, Paul McShane must have grown a lot in his sleep last night...
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| I think Rob Burrow's stint at hooker has brought the average height down.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Didn't Newlove play in the 90's/2000's?
The game isn't just about attacking - the centre has to be able to tackle effectively - not easy to tackle a 16 stone juggernaut when you only weight 12/13 stone and are 6" shorter.
Even hookers are 6" and most half backs are 5'10"+ this is the modern game - players are bigger and stronger with just as much skill. In the older days the game was much slower so the players had the time - look at old games and see how slow it was - these players would not have the time to play the way they did - Im sure they would have adapted.'"
Name the 6" hookers or even the 6' ones for that matter.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "The game isn't what it was in the 60s/70s - There are only 2 centres in SL worth mentioning Watkins - who is the size of a second row and Percival who is almost as big.
In the NRL the centres the best ones in recent years
Lyon was not small but would not say he was the size of a second row Jennings is only about 5'10" Renouf was not big at all Tate was about 6',2" but slight.
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| Quote: tad rhino "just thinking out loud really. for me walkers the best by a long way'"
if he is the best and a long way better than Golding, then we need to recruit a fullback, walker may come good but he is two years away from being good enough, showed that yesterdayl when he was on the field, nowhere to be seen for two of there trys and was left for dead by lineham, he has no pace whatsoever, the fact that last year Gareth Ellis tracked him down and tackled him in last years semis says a lot.
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| Quote: Keiththered "Name the 6" hookers or even the 6' ones for that matter.'"
Daryl Clarke?
Roby is 5'11"
Parcell is 5'11"
Cameron Smith 5'11"
Do you need anymore?
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Lyon was not small but would not say he was the size of a second row Jennings is only about 5'10" Renouf was not big at all Tate was about 6',2" but slight.'"
Lyon is 6ft, Renouf was 5'11"
Jennings is a solid as most second row forwards he weighs 96kgs
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