Cant see who we can avoid middle 8’s now cant see Huddersfield or catalan loosing both their last 2 games. More humiliation of middle 8’s again. McDermott should gave been sacked after we lost to Huddersfield at home.

myler alluded to things had slipped behind the scenes.

It’s possible Wakefield could lose both their remaining games

You still have to win both and rely on Wakey to lose both. I personally think Wakefiekd will beat Hull and take on Huuds whovare our bogey team, I wouldnt wantvto vexa Leeds fan relyingbon Wakey to beat Hudds. At home we have done ok only got a pasting by Catalans, other than that the games lost at home have been very close. Hull look shotcwith injuries too.

Think we will win the the last two but expect wakey to get a win too.

Ultimately we haven't been good enough this season.

Catalans will beat salford at home they will be fine. Wakey v Hull next week is the key game, and right now you have to fancy them. Huddersfield will get two bites of the cherry, first against cas which will be tough but if Wakey get the expected win against Hull then a desperate Huddersfield should be fine against them at home.

Not looking good for us making it now.

Agree, although I doubt it'd make pretty viewing if we did.

In simple terms, to avoid the middle 8s, am I right in thinking we need to beat widnes and Salford, which I think we will. And either one of Catalans, Huddersfield or Wakefield need to loose their remaining two games ?

Cats- Salford (h) Wigan (a)
Huds- cas (a) wakey (h)
wakey- hull (h) huds (a)

If I’m right here, there’s a real chance Wakefield or Huddersfield could lose their remaining two games and switch with us?

If Huddersfield lose to cas and Wakefield lose to hull next week, as long as we beat Widnes and Salford we’re prwtty much guaranteed to make the 8. Even if Huddersfield and Wakefield draw in the last game, our points difference will be better than Huddersfield.

There is no guarantees on anything with this team. I was shocked looking at the stars earlier on just how poor if an attacking team we have been.

Last year was our poorest attack Until this year, and we won the title. But this year our highest points scored in a league match was the 28 in winning at Saints, apparently. If that is the case no wonder we don’t win games.

I agree with that. I’m just hoping we’ve got enough to win our last two. We just need to get into the 8s and then write this season off. Start working on next year and most importantly recruitment

If Hudds and Wakey win next week you are done its unlikely that Catalans will lose at home, I think Wakey will beat Hull, obvioysly fancy Cas but you never know. You on the other hand havecto beat Widnes your bogey team, then Salford at Salford who it seems will have some qualitg in by then, namely Hastings and rumours of another and also possibly MCB from Wakey.

If we don't win against widnes this Friday it's all over.

Potential middle eight games if league placings stay how they are.
HOME: Hull KR, Toronto, Salford, Featherstone.
AWAY: Toulouse, Widnes, London.

Have to say that them away games will be very tough. Toulouse away, they are a very tough side to play at home. Widnes isn’t the best stumping ground for us and both them and London play on plastic pitches.

We won't lose a game.