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| Quote: leedsnsouths "When did this problem between GH and SMTM begin?
IIRC correctly Danny Mcguire was their first player and they were introduced by GH'"
There isn't a problem with GH and SMTM
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| I don't see any reason why all junior players should get the same money - if you are so rigid you will miss out on the really talented ones.
GH is obviously a tough negotiator but he is nobody's fool - young talent should be the life blood of the club.
Talent cost a premium regardless of what industry you are - RL can not be immune
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I don't see any reason why all junior players should get the same money - if you are so rigid you will miss out on the really talented ones.
GH is obviously a tough negotiator but he is nobody's fool - young talent should be the life blood of the club.
Talent cost a premium regardless of what industry you are - RL can not be immune'"
I think once they get to 18 19 you should start paying more based on talent, but before then I think Leeds are doing the right thing by offering an even wage, it helps weed out the players the players who have the drive to improve to the ones who think that everything is owed to them because of their talent.
How many players have Leeds missed out on because of money, who went on to be top player? the only one I can think of is McLorum
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| Quote: leedsnsouths "I think once they get to 18 19 you should start paying more based on talent, but before then I think Leeds are doing the right thing by offering an even wage, it helps weed out the players the players who have the drive to improve to the ones who think that everything is owed to them because of their talent.
How many players have Leeds missed out on because of money, who went on to be top player? the only one I can think of is McLorum'"
We will never know - I assume Leeds will be in for most talented youngsters so how many do they lose because of not being willing to offer competitive monies who knows we only know about those that start in the system and then move on we never know about those that never even hit the system
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "We will never know - I assume Leeds will be in for most talented youngsters so how many do they lose because of not being willing to offer competitive monies who knows we only know about those that start in the system and then move on we never know about those that never even hit the system'"
Conversely we have seen a lot of players leave for money and not go on to do anything, and we have seen loads who look world beaters at youth and academy level and never get close to the same level in SL.
We can't pay the most for every player with the talent because we will end up with a huge amount of money and SC space wasted, we can't be completely uncompetitive because we wont sign the players we need to. All the club can do is trust its own judgement.
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| Agree Smokey. If I could be bothered I'd love to list the many academy lads feted for stardom who have done precisely squat - at Leeds and elsewhere. That doesn't mean you don't hope for them to become great, or be ready to step in once you're convinced they're going to make it. But throwing money at 16 year olds is basically entering a lottery with far more losing numbers than winning ones..
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Conversely we have seen a lot of players leave for money and not go on to do anything, and we have seen loads who look world beaters at youth and academy level and never get close to the same level in SL.
We can't pay the most for every player with the talent because we will end up with a huge amount of money and SC space wasted, we can't be completely uncompetitive because we wont sign the players we need to. All the club can do is trust its own judgement.'"
As I said GH is nobody's fool - he will pay what he feels is required to secure said player - free market economics
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| Good win away at Hull, 10-26
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| Excellent result v Hull. Have you had permission from the boards hierarchy to post a positive sounding post?
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| Another impressive win interestingly Oledzki played or at least he was named in the 17 hopefully he & Cam Smith get 1st team minutes this year.
Although id hope the latter strings a number of injury free games together first.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Highlights of the win at Hull:
Jack has other issues he needs to sort out at the moment. Hopefully won't effect him, but could do with sorting things correctly or probably will.
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| [list[/list Quote: Gotcha "Jack has other issues he needs to sort out at the moment. Hopefully won't effect him, but could do with sorting things correctly or probably will.'"
Are these 'issues' rugby related?
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "[list[/listAre these 'issues' rugby related?'"
No. But doesn't stop them effecting his rugby.
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| Not seen a lot of the 19s recently but Jack Walker immediately stood out. How old is he?
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