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I think most clubs would have sacked him , or transfer listed him at least

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Quote: Smooth Stu "He was. And then 'that' incident happened and we put him on a disciplinary. We could have suspended him for any number of weeks

I guess it depends on the severity of the incident.
But yes I doubt many clubs Leeds included would have banned him for that amount of games.
Also how will the rest of the team respond to him when he is back remains to be seen.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "I think most clubs would have sacked him , or transfer listed him at least'"

Or stood by them after serving a custodial sentence!

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Quote: chapylad "Or stood by them after serving a custodial sentence!'"

Entirely different circumstances though. I think Bateman is very lucky indeed to still be at Wigan.

Though of course the real problem is that if a club sacks a player then they're the ones that lose out.
As a sport we need to come up with some kind of system so that when a player is sacked the club receives some form of compensation if they go to another club.

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Quote: Him "Entirely different circumstances though. I think Bateman is very lucky indeed to still be at Wigan.

Though of course the real problem is that if a club sacks a player then they're the ones that lose out.
As a sport we need to come up with some kind of system so that when a player is sacked the club receives some form of compensation if they go to another club.'"


A club can, I think, deregister the player for salary cap purposes so he can't play but continue to hold the rights over his playing registration for as long as his contract is still valid.

Problem with that is you're still lumbered with paying their salary until the contract runs out, even though it doesn't appear on your cap.

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Quote: Him "Entirely different circumstances though. I think Bateman is very lucky indeed to still be at Wigan.

Though of course the real problem is that if a club sacks a player then they're the ones that lose out.
As a sport we need to come up with some kind of system so that when a player is sacked the club receives some form of compensation if they go to another club.'"

If the clubs wants out of its obligations to a player, it pays the consequences of that.

The idea a club should be compensated for its decision to terminate a contract is crazy. The idea they could sack a player, stop paying him, then have any sort of control over his future employment is scary.

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Quote: Him "Entirely different circumstances though. I think Bateman is very lucky indeed to still be at Wigan.
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Not sure I agree with that Him.
Both cases relate to a criminal offence and both were in the public domain.
Infact the Bateman case if rumours are true did not involve the police whereas the incident at Leeds all those years ago did.
We stood by our players even after presumably they received a criminal record.
Wigan slapped a decent ban on Bateman that did not involve the police or a custodail sentance.
Batemans offence most likely ruined team spirit.
And like I said much will depend on how the rest of the players welcome him back into the fold.

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the player he went for is off to oz though so that might help

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Quote: tad rhino "the player he went for is off to oz though so that might help'"



Thought he went for Mossop? Surely he can't have landed another deal in Australia.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "If the clubs wants out of its obligations to a player, it pays the consequences of that.

The idea a club should be compensated for its decision to terminate a contract is crazy. The idea they could sack a player, stop paying him, then have any sort of control over his future employment is scary.'"

But the player has breached his obligations to the club. Why should the club be punished for that. I get the point over future control. But if the sacking is justified (as it most certainly would be in the case of Bateman) then you could argue the club has suffered more than the player has when the player gets a new club fairly quickly.
Sport isn't the same as regular life/jobs. If you or I were sacked from our jobs for assaulting a co-worker we'd struggle to find another comparable job. That isn't the case in sport.

It's the reason why there are very few sackings despite there often being cause for it.

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Quote: chapylad "Not sure I agree with that Him.
Both cases relate to a criminal offence and both were in the public domain.
Infact the Bateman case if rumours are true did not involve the police whereas the incident at Leeds all those years ago did.
We stood by our players even after presumably they received a criminal record.
Wigan slapped a decent ban on Bateman that did not involve the police or a custodail sentance.
Batemans offence most likely ruined team spirit.
And like I said much will depend on how the rest of the players welcome him back into the fold.'"

But that's why, from a club point of view, I think they're quite different. One is, effectively, bringing the sport/club into disrepute. The other is one employee assaulting another.
It's the fact that it's another Wigan employee who was affected that makes it much more of an issue for the club in my opinion.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Thought he went for Mossop? Surely he can't have landed another deal in Australia.'"


according to a bulls player who is mates with bateman it was sarginson. happened at the races apparently

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Quote: tad rhino "according to a bulls player who is mates with bateman it was sarginson. happened at the races apparently'"


That was a different incident!

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What's up with Garbutt? Take it he's injured, unless like Keinhorst he's been playing too well to be selected.

Wigan without their five best, most experienced players (Tomkins, Tomkins, McIlorum, Farrell, O'Loughlin). If we lose this at home it'll be as bad as any other result this season.

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