I'm sure that's Hardaker's dads version of it that he's telling. Just like he claimed the club apologised for the fine they gave him for his World Cup exit. Never Hardaker's fault from the angle you're told it.

Hardakers "dad" will have said nothing of the sort, how do you know Hardakers dad? He has not been spoken to in anyway about twitter, and punished for it. He might well be being punished, but nothing to do with twitter, and certainly not for the Rhinos benefit.

Don't suppose that has anything to do with Falloon disappearing off the face of the earth?

I don't know anything about Falloon. I was expecting he would be back in the squad this week, never thought about it. I just know about two others.

Which 2 others?

Fair enough, I was just connecting the dots between your comment and his vanishing act. Do you mind saying who the other two are?

That would be best for all concerned.one of the Biggest waste of space signings ever.

Apologies, but not. I am often critisised on here for speaking openly, which I usually don't mind doing. But on this occassion I will keep stum, due to the fact that the club are trying to persuade otherwise.

On Baldwinson, obviously non of us are privy to what goes on behind the scenes.I guess if he does go there must be something there but it does seem bizzare that a player that was showing so much promise for Fev can't get a few games in this sackless Leeds team at the minute, its no wonder he must feel unwanted.I do take Gotchas point about our props not being all that bad on the scheme of things but Mac should still have found away to get him game time for me, even if it was just 15/20 minutes from the bench.

I hope we don't look back at this in a few years when/if Baldwinson is pulling on an England shirt and battering us up the middle for a rival SL team.

Surely that's Win Win for you then. If they go, you were right and if they stay, they were persuaded?

It's no problem I understand completely, the last thing the club will want is for the fanbase to unsettle them any further. I was just being a bit nosey .

Whoever it is I do hope they stay. Barring Achurch, who has already been confirmed as leaving, all the players have shown that they are good enough for Leeds and it would be a shame for us to lose this squad. If McDermott is the cause of the issues as some are claiming then I would rather see him go.

Not really, because we lose at least one damn good player, and I have never said I told you so on here, never believe in it. So really no winners.

Got to be Hardaker or Watkins then plus 1 other.

I would let anybody go who wants a release, nobody is bigger than the club and as we have seen so far, pointless having non motivated players.

As far as Watkins goes he probably needs to go for himself, he looks like he has zero motivation and desire for playing for the club anymore to me . His stock must have fallen sharply though these last few months.

Neither are earning their wages this season so they can both go do one IMO.