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I know we are not privvy to internal decisions, but I would love to know BMD's reasoning for playing Hardaker on the wing & Goulding at FB. Goulding, whilst enthusiastic, was cast around like a rag doll all night, with Hardaker twiddling his thumbs on the wing.

Then, lo & behold, BMD decides at 6 v 42 on the scoreboard to switch Hardaker back to FB.

Now I know Hardaker has not been in top form (who has?), but surely in times of strife you keep your tried & tested internationals in their best positions.

Also, with our much-talked-about injury problems, what has happened with Singleton? Surely he's a better bet on the bench than Achurch & Walters?

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Quote: ThePrinter "Firatly it's not a position he's unaccustomed to.

Secondly, I'm surprised he's been moved there but if his response is to put in a half ar$ed showing because he's been asked to play another role then he shouldn't waltz back into his usual position. At least Golding was one of the few guys who tried tonight.'"


Really? How often has he played on the wing.
He played full-back at Featherstone and I don't remember him playing anywhere but there for Leeds, although I don't watch every game.
He certainly didn't win MoS playing on the wing.
Send him to us, we could do with a back-up for Dorn.

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Quote: craigizzard "Hardaker, for whatever reason, has been completely f'ed over by McDermott this season.

You don't put a guy who was proven to be the league's best fullback - indeed was judged by his peers to be the league's best player - out on the wing while you play an unproven kid whose confidence you could shatter at fullback - along with hooker the most important position in th modern game (not that we bother playing a booker either).

It's bizarre, and can only be the equivalent of a punishment beating or whatever it was they did in the Marines. He won't be the first player to get that treatment - he hasn't even been the first this season - but it's a spectacular way of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Even an off-form Hardaker stops some of the Cas tries tonight. In fact, when he finally switched there after an hour we stopped leaking points.'"


We stopped leaking points but I'd put that down to Cas taking their foot off the gas and most importantly JJB was moved away from that 2nd row position that constantly saw them waltz down that right hand channel.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Really? How often has he played on the wing.
He played full-back at Featherstone and I don't remember him playing anywhere but there for Leeds, although I don't watch every game.
He certainly didn't win MoS playing on the wing.
Send him to us, we could do with a back-up for Dorn.'"


He played wing in his first season with Leeds before switching inside to centre. He was a pretty good winger several years ago, but obviously is better used at fullback.

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Quote: ThePrinter "We stopped leaking points but I'd put that down to Cas taking their foot off the gas and most importantly JJB was moved away from that 2nd row position that constantly saw them waltz down that right hand channel.'"


Whatever. Do you think Golding is a better fullback than Hardaker?

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Really? How often has he played on the wing.
He played full-back at Featherstone and I don't remember him playing anywhere but there for Leeds, although I don't watch every game.
He certainly didn't win MoS playing on the wing.
Send him to us, we could do with a back-up for Dorn.'"


Pretty sure he played quite a bit of wing at Featherstone. He started out getting games at Leeds on the wing, moved to centre for a year and then took over at FB mid-2012.

Also the idea that any FB at this level is unaccustomed to slotting in at wing is ridiculous.

Also as far as potential reasons as to why he's been started on the wing the last two weeks then look back to the week he's missed and then spent the night on Twitter getting into online fights and making himself look stupid again threatening to go around to people's place of work to have it out with them.....that won't have gone unnoticed by management who will expect players to conduct themselves/represent the club well if they're going to use social media.

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Quote: craigizzard "Whatever. Do you think Golding is a better fullback than Hardaker?'"



No I don't but i don't think them switching had anything to do with Cas' scoring rate slowing down a bit.

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Quote: ThePrinter " Also as far as potential reasons as to why he's been started on the wing the last two weeks then look back to the week he's missed and then spent the night on Twitter getting into online fights and making himself look stupid again threatening to go around to people's place of work to have it out with them.....that won't have gone unnoticed by management who will expect players to conduct themselves/represent the club well if they're going to use social media.'"


Are you serious? You are suggesting that his coach has picked him to play on the wing as some kind of punishment for his social media activity?
Bizarre.

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If I was Powell I'd be disappointed with that. Bombed as many chances as they took. Great to see a Leeds Academy half-back ripping it up out there.

Meanwhile across the gangway McDermott is giving the team the rest of the week off. Back in Monday morning lads.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "I don't think its a big player overhaul needed. Yes a few may need to move on but its the coaching set up, a new voice, new ideas that this group need now.Somebody to reinvigorate players who clearly need a re boot. Over to GH but as others have said, he is likely to be too stubborn to act immediately.'"


I think We need bits of both. Until tonight I thought there was effort and some hope, however we look totally shot now and I can't see where they go next. This could get worse. The next 2 look like big defeats.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Are you serious? You are suggesting that his coach has picked him to play on the wing as some kind of punishment for his social media activity?
Bizarre.'"


Possibly, he was happily picking Golding on the wing and Hardaker FB before that night on Twitter from him then it changed. If we had more backs fit he might have dropped him completely.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Possibly, he was happily picking Golding on the wing and Hardaker FB before that night on Twitter from him then it changed. If we had more backs fit he might have dropped him completely.'"


If this is the case, McDermott has completely lost it.

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Quote: ThePrinter "No I don't but i don't think them switching had anything to do with Cas' scoring rate slowing down a bit.'"


That might be true. We'll never know what the score would have been if Hardaker started at 1.

However I think it's terrible man-management in three ways.

1) For Hardaker. Putting a guy who is not without ego but has been outstanding into the least involved position in the team can only be taken as a deliberate humiliation.

2) For Holding. Unnecessarily exposing a young player at a delicate stage of his career to a vital position in a struggling team, with potentially very bad effects for his confidence and development.

3) For the rest of the team, who may be equally wrong-footed by the coach's decision and certainly suffer the effects of the team being deliberately weakened at a time when it needs all the help it fan get.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "If this is the case, McDermott has completely lost it.'"


Has he? Would the decision be made by him alone considering club management too will have had a say? As a player you're representing your club at all times and Hardaker acted like a embarrassing tool and like I said is perhaps fortunate we have so many backs missing at the moments to not be dropped at all for that incident.

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I'm hearing McDermott has resigned after giving his last speech in the changing room.

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