I am not suggesting we replace who I regard as the best two centres in SL. Simply suggesting that Sutcliffe does not look comfortable or a natural game manager at 6 and perhaps not forceful enough as a 13. IMO his present skill set is possibly best suited as a centre where he may well end up be it due to injuries or transfers.

I do think there is an element of truth in what Printer is saying - I do think you have a bee in your bonnet about McGuire being captain and why your preferred candidate has been overlooked.

On Burrow - I thought he and McGuire had a much greater influence on the outcomes at the back end of the season than either Sinfield or Peacock.

Well you would wouldn't you, considering the comment is about your love child. However this wasn't about McGuire, who yes I think the club have made a massive error in making captain, but of course have always maintained his position in the side. And contrary to what you are alluding to I have voiced no preferred candidate, and would just have liked the club to have followed the principle of Sinfield, young, growing with team, and set right example. If I am honest, the best fit is Ward, but he is out injured anyway at present.




That's just laughable that. They still didn't organise and manage the team to the success it had, they played off the back of that. That's not influence that is opportunism, and good luck to them for that.

I am not disagreeing with your rationale, I think Ward will make a great captain - but most on here no what's coming - if Sinfield had been on the field this would happened, McGuire's not a leader etc.

McGuire had a lot of influence on what happened on the field as did Burrow to suggest they didn't is really laughable. McGuire orchestrated many of the important plays that made the difference between success and failure of the season. That is not opportunism that's game strategy - you only have to listen to his comments about the play at Huddersfield!!

Youve said the club made a massive error in appointing mcguire as captain but have offered no viable alternative? JJB and Stevie ward weren't viable due to their long term injuries, so I see It as the club have chosen the next person who has been a major part of the successful last decade and hope that he can transition those values to the 'new squad'. To argue the point you make you must at least have a realistic alternative.

I did read correctly, you just worded your post very poorly.....



No separation between starting or subs bench, just that he isn't suited to the modern game.



Agree with that, a couple of posters really undervalued just how good Aiton was for us last year.

There seems to be a couple of posters that really undervalued just how good Burrow was for us last year too!

When he had a sustained run at 6 prior to injury with Mags at 7 he looked every bit and performed like a natural 6 so who how you come to him not looking comfortable at 6 i don't know nor do i see it.
Onto him not being a natural game manager just how many times has he had to fill that role at 1st team level for you to come that conclusion?
It's a new year whilst a big transition is taking place amidst a mounting injury list so far too early to be suggesting such things no?
Gotcha-Re Mags just watch the games he played with Sutty was at 6 he directed the team then and during the play offs not only that he was "THE GO TO MAN" in the GF

There have been fans undervaluing just how good Burrow has been for us for 15 years.

He was good, for the last 3 rounds. Rest of the year he was either ok or not really needed.

he wasnt too bad in this game either www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/33740479, or when busting open the game and scoring his 200th try for leeds against Hull in the super 8s, or you know, when he was part of the side that won the CC final by a record margin, or when he basically won the first game against Wigan for us with an unbelievable dummy from acting half.

he wasnt too bad in this game either www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/33740479, or when busting open the game and scoring his 200th try for leeds against Hull in the super 8s, or you know, when he was part of the side that won the CC final by a record margin, or when he basically won the first game against Wigan for us with an unbelievable dummy from acting half.

We do sometimes see a performance from a different angle be it player or coach don't we?

Yes he put in some good individual performances during theses 6 games but that was in a table topping side and despite this he did not show me he has the personality to constantly go looking for the ball and take control of a game. He may well grow into the position and I have argued youngsters should be given time, however to date he looks a bit too reserved and can disappear for chunks of a game. These are not the traits I look for in a half back or game manager. Contrast that with young Lilley who in much fewer appearances has show a willingness to get his hands on the ball and take responsibility.

With Mags injured Sutcliffe has to play but when he returns I would like to see him partnered with Lilley for a spell, unless of course we see a big improvement from Sutty.

However just my opinion on what I have seen so far.