But in previous debates about this topic this year people have been talking about the last couple of years.....only you have harked back to 2005 for your own self interest.

Note you highlighted Hardaker's tweet. Note that before today's draw that in HIS TIME at the club Leeds had a 5 Home/5 Away draw record with only 1 non SL club before the QF stages.

How would you categorise that?
Lucky, unlucky, even?

Get a life mate....us Leythers can't wait, testing ourselves against one of the best teams in Super League !

Don't you mean 'THE' best team in Super League?

With all due respect, not every club has a record of securing 18 home draws out of the last 26 therefore any "unlucky" claims are probably based upon a smidgen of rationality.

Was that a "YES... I also believe Leeds are unlucky in CC draws?"

They are now!

Getting a life doesn't involve attending RL fixtures in the middle of summer and it certainly doesn't involve attending that particular fixture but thanks for the invite anyhow. Good luck in two months time (or whenever it is to be played) and enjoy your trip over to Headingley.

Thanks

No they haven't. They've whinged, whined and moaned after every CC draw about how long it's been since Leeds drew non-SL opposition, how unlucky Leeds are and how unfair it all is.

I might have had some sympathy for that viewpoint had it not been for the staggering 18 out of 26 home draws stat. Claiming CC draws against whipping boy SL rabble (majority drawn at home) as bad luck or injustice on a monumental scale is truly moronic.

Iran are playing Trinidad and Tobago in a pre-World Cup warm up that weekend, can't miss that technical masterpiece now can you.

Great draw. Finally non SL opposition so we can rest a few.

Also dont feed the troll.

Are you feeling lonely? You have managed to start a debate here of sorts. Not your most elegant effort, but I suppose they all count.

I have heard some vague mutterings on the subject, but (and I acknowledge that I don't read every thread on here) by far the greatest fuss I have ever seen made on the subject of Leeds' luck in Cup draws is being made by you, on this thread.

In a spirit of participation: Personally I don't worry too much about the effects of "luck" in random processes - you get a random outcome each time. Random chance is no great observer of "justice" or "fairness". I might be moderatley interested in a serious attempt to determine whether Leeds were more or less lucky than would be predicted by a purely random draw (in terms of the team they face) - taking into account the number of lower league sides in each draw etc. But not that interested. The Cup is usually won by a team that beats what's put in front of it 5 times in a row. That Leeds haven't managed that in 14 years is a bigger disappointment than whatever the draw has thrown up.

You could argue that it isn't a random process, due to conspiracy theory and all that. But my tinfoil hat is in the wash.