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| Quote: G1 "Quote: G1 "Just look at it as the 2nd free game out of the 3 you received
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Quote: Sal Paradise "There are no excuses coming from the club about last night , it was a shocker end of . Are Warrington fans calling for Smith to go after 2 losses in a week ? I doubt it . This thread is Knee-jerk of the highest order , embarrassing .
This is a proud bunch of players under a coach who has produced silverware and finals aplenty under his tenure and as such deserve a little slack after a poor performance .
To be beaten by a good side sitting top of the league and coming off a defeat where they had their pants royally pulled down by Bradford is no shame , how we react next week is what counts .'"
I am not asking for McDermott to go - I just want to see the quality of performance I saw against Melbourne on a more regular basis.'"unfortunately i think that is unrealistic. Performances like that are not sustainable over a long period. This group of players has shown an ability to raise their game to a level that others cant hit, but that has a pay back in term of what it does to your body. Our club has been unrivalled in getting our key players available and at 100% come play off time. Question is do people want an entertaining team, or a sucessful one?
To some extent we shkuld make hay whilst the sun shines. We may have to wait a long time for another group of players a special a this one. I'd prefer to see this group continue to write they name into the history books, but then again, I'm not a season ticket holder
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Yeah because guitarists have 17 other guitarists trying to stop them playing their chords correctly
This is the entertainment business - too often Leeds have put in performances like Friday night in the last two years. Watkins didn't have anyone near him when he knocked on - so your 17 guys doesn't hold water. These are elite sportsmen that should be able to do the basics like correctly passing the ball - playing the ball correctly is that really asking too much?
Of course I make errors at work - mainly judgement calls - sometimes they work sometimes they don't but I don't make errors with the basics like adding spreadsheets up etc
As I said before I just want to see a level of performance close to the WCC on a more regular basis - I don't mind losing but when the team put in a performance lack Friday that is frustrating.
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| Quote: The Eagle "unfortunately i think that is unrealistic. Performances like that are not sustainable over a long period. This group of players has shown an ability to raise their game to a level that others cant hit, but that has a pay back in term of what it does to your body. Our club has been unrivalled in getting our key players available and at 100% come play off time. Question is do people want an entertaining team, or a sucessful one?
To some extent we shkuld make hay whilst the sun shines. We may have to wait a long time for another group of players a special a this one. I'd prefer to see this group continue to write they name into the history books, but then again, I'm not a season ticket holder'"
They should be attainable on a weekly basis - that is what a squad is for, a team of this quality should be able to compete with the likes of Huddersfield any week of the year.
What I cannot understand is why they can get up for the GF yet play so appallingly in the CC?
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| Quote: ThePrinter "God, 7 days in sport is a long time for some people's memories.
Reading through some of the posters and threads they've been quick to roll out the old and very tedious ''Leeds don't care about the regular season''.
Strange considering people were full of praise last week for the professional job we did going away to Saints, likewise.....
- Hudds were poor last week, good this one
- Cas put up a good fight this week, definately not this week
- Saints disappointing last week, very good this week
- Bradford very good last week, to unable to finish off 12 men
- Hull disappointing last week, very good this week
It happens, get over it.
But it seems to be spreading all over the league that if a team lose it MUST be because they know it doesn't matter because of the Playoffs, so explain other sporting events like......
2011/12 - Man Utd 1 - 6 Man City (this ultimately cost them the title)
2008 - Manly 40 - 0 Melbourne (in a GRAND FINAL match)
2012 - Rory McIlroy doesn't make the cut at one of the 4 Majors (US Open)
2010 - England win the Ashes by winning THREE tests with an innings to spare.
2007 - Even though they win Grand Slams in '05 & '08, Wales can't even get out of the group stage at the Rugby World Cup.
2013 - In a non-playoff league, Man City (already behind Man Utd by 9 points) put in a woeful performance to lose 3-1 to relegation contenders Southampton
2010 - Leeds 6 - 30 Warrington (CC FINAL)
All of these poor results even in 'critical' occasions show that bad results/performances happen in sport regardless of the importance. Seems to be more a lazy excuse from some RL fans to dismiss a defeat as 'not important' simply because of the stick they get from rival fans in defeat and to downplay the other team's good victory.'"
You need to get out more
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| Quote: GCM1980 "I'm pretty sure they'll be bothered. They've made it very clear they want to improve on regular season performances, and that won't go down well.'"
Yes, the coach and players did make it clear they were bothered and that they did wish to improve their regular season performances. The timing of their statements just happened to coincide with the flogging of season tickets. What a coincidence.
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| Not sure why they would not want to win every game and finish higher up the league considering I would assume bonuses go up the higher they finish?
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| Quote: nantwichexile "You need to get out more
And you need to stop fantasizing about teenagers playing with grown men, Savile Mk II
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| Quote: ThePrinter "And you need to stop fantasizing about teenagers playing with grown men, Savile Mk II
Not needed - grow up
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Quote: Sal Paradise "unfortunately i think that is unrealistic. Performances like that are not sustainable over a long period. This group of players has shown an ability to raise their game to a level that others cant hit, but that has a pay back in term of what it does to your body. Our club has been unrivalled in getting our key players available and at 100% come play off time. Question is do people want an entertaining team, or a sucessful one?
To some extent we shkuld make hay whilst the sun shines. We may have to wait a long time for another group of players a special a this one. I'd prefer to see this group continue to write they name into the history books, but then again, I'm not a season ticket holder'"
They should be attainable on a weekly basis - that is what a squad is for, a team of this quality should be able to compete with the likes of Huddersfield any week of the year.
What I cannot understand is why they can get up for the GF yet play so appallingly in the CC?'" i cant work that out either. Maybe the timing of the final doesnt fit well with the scheduling of the end of season peak?
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| As long as we have this ridiculous eight team play-off system then we can afford to put in poor performances, just like Friday night, safe in the knowledge that there is a big fat cushion we can fall into come season’s end.
I don’t for one minute think that we threw the game intentionally but this was not the same team that beat Saints the previous week and a million miles from the team that played in the WCC.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "And you need to stop fantasizing about teenagers playing with grown men, Savile Mk II
Oh dear
There is bad taste and then there is this
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Oh dear
There is bad taste and then there is this'"
Unfortunately, the Rhinos brand appeals to many of those south-of-the-river types these days. No class whatsoever. I preferred it back in the day when they stayed on their own side of the river and supported Hunslet instead.
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| GH was clearly unhappy with how the majority of the season went last year, as he had one eye on season-ticket sales for this year. I doubt he'll be too happy if this one goes the same way, even if we do win the GF. However, he's stuck in a bit of a quandary as the squad has continued to deliver trophies and its hard for him to intervene too directly, especially with senior players making adoring comments about McDermott.
I don't buy this 'thin squad' argument either. Are people seriously suggesting that the majority of the team is physically incapable of putting in a decent effort more than once every two weeks, especially early in the season? I can see Peacock and Leuluai having issues due to age , but if that's the case McDermott should rotate them. If they continue to put their hands up to play then its their responsibility to turn up, and McDermott's to 'rest' them if they look knackered.
Was Warrington's squad so much bigger than Leeds last year? They played just one game less than Leeds, won the CC and were runners up in the GF, and yet played at a pretty good level throughout the regular season as well. Their GF loss was certainly nothing to do with fatigue.
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| Quote: William Eve "Unfortunately, the Rhinos brand appeals to many of those south-of-the-river types these days. No class whatsoever. I preferred it back in the day when they stayed on their own side of the river and supported Hunslet instead.'"
Aye I hate those that cross the river to watch rugby.........
Quote: William Eve "I would often attend lower division games on a weekend... Hunslet being the nearest and most frequent venue for me'"
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