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| re: moving Hall to the right, BJB it must be remembered was the 7th highest tryscorer in all competitions last year, he's certainly no slouch. Only Tomkins, Charnley, Hall, Riley, Monaghan & Wellens scored more tries. And with McGuire, Watkins & Hardaker all getting past the 20-try mark as well, he's got plenty of competition for finishing.
As for a breakdown of next year's 1-5 in this year's tryscoring:
1. Hardaker: 21 tries
2. Jones-Bishop: 23 tries
3. Watkins: 20 tries
4. Ablett: 13 tries
5. Hall: 33 tries.
Outside the back five, McGuire got 22, Burrow got 12, Lunt got 9 and Sinfield got 7.
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| Lulia ? no thanks
Anyone who thinks he would be an improvement on the hugely underated Ablett are kidding themselves , big Carl by plenty .
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| Lulia offers a lot more in attack and would put Hall in for a lot more tries but Ablett is very strong defensively, is hard to stop from 10 metres out and is very capable of drawing his men and putting Hall into space. I wouldn't mind Lulia but it isn't a necessity. A hooker or a massive human wrecking 2nd row would be more ideal!
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| Quote: rugbyleague88 "Although I wouldn't move Hall to the centre, who says a centre has to be creative. If Hall was to move to centre, he would be likely to get earlier more quality ball which could make him more devastating. If he is finishing chances and scoring 30+ tries then I wouldn't see the problem in it. Sometimes wingers can be anonymous because they aren't getting the opportunities, bringing them in field can make them more effective.
I personally think Hall would be more effective on the wing than centre though, although it'd be interesting to see him play at centre a couple of times and see how it goes.'"
There are plenty of not-so-creative centres in SL. This is chiefly because we struggle, nationally, to rpoduce anything else. Moving another pacy powerhouse finisher there doesn't really help.
Really good centres are the ones who can score, yes, but who create chances for their winger. Watkins is the best prospect of this kind English RL has produced in a long time. Ablett is actually better at it than people give him credit for and I think is a better centre than many who are highly rated (Yeaman, Welham, Cudjoe) for that reason. I'd have no issue with him being at centre again next year, but I don't know whether he feels the same.
If he was happy there, it'd need to be real class that we brought in, because I can't actually see many centres running around in SL at the moment. The ones that there are (Atkins is one who seems to have really worked on his creative play, in a more Senior than Lyon way -ie hit the line and slip an offload out of contact) are like rocking horse s**t and their clubs are not going to be too keen on releasing them.
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Being entirely serious this reflects my train of thought.
Hall is a fabulous finisher perhaps lacking a bit of pace (but then that never did Alan Smith much harm), but as with Watkins, Leeds need to find a way to put the ball into his hands more often.
(Hall outside Watkins on the right would at least guarantee Hall getting increased quality ball).
Personally I would be seriously indifferent to Leeds signing any centre other than somebody of the quality of Ingliss of course. Ablett and Keinhorst offer plenty enough for SL in the LC position IMO. Leeds need to focus more on the shape of the future pack this coming season........and I don't mean with a hooker who cannot defend down the middle.'"
Totally agree with areas needing improvement. Talking of switching positions Keinhorst actually played wing before coming to Leeds to play ....maybe game time outside Watkins.....
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| A left centre has to be a priority. I wouldn't be upset if we signed either Moon or Lulia as it would be an improvement on what we have there and it would mean Ablet could be moved back into the pack. Ablett is at a crucial point in his career and could well be in danger of no fullfiling his potential as a back rower if he has to spend another year filling in at centre. If we don't sign anyone I'd give Keinhorst a chance.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "A left centre has to be a priority. I wouldn't be upset if we signed either Moon or Lulia as it would be an improvement on what we have there and it would mean Ablet could be moved back into the pack. Ablett is at a crucial point in his career and could well be in danger of no fullfiling his potential as a back rower if he has to spend another year filling in at centre. If we don't sign anyone I'd give Keinhorst a chance.'"
I agree. Interestingly in YP yesterday Lulia spoke positively about playing for the Rhinos, but not until 2014 after his Bull's contract finishes. If that is the case what's to stop GH signing him now in advance with no fee to pay? That could lead to a compromise about next season as well.
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| Quote: rhino2009 "I agree. Interestingly in YP yesterday Lulia spoke positively about playing for the Rhinos, but not until 2014 after his Bull's contract finishes. If that is the case what's to stop GH signing him now in advance with no fee to pay? That could lead to a compromise about next season as well.'"
Bradford and the anti-tampering deadline. If we want to sign Lulia for 2014 without Bradford's consent we'll have to wait until September 1st.
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| Israel folau may be coming back to RL. That would be a great signing
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| Quote: Separate Ways "Josh Morris'"
Morris is a great player like Folau but SL can't afford them and both unfortunately will stay in NRL.
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| Obviously we couldn't afford him but Israel Folau would be a top notch signing.
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| i think we need another Senior type player. Big and strong that can take 2-3 men in the tackle and then get the ball away to Hall. Hall can score 1 on 1 almost everytime cos of his power so we need a centre big enough to do this. Im sure Leeds are close to signing a centre I hope they asked Hall what type of centre he wanted to play along side during the selection process - i guess we will see!
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| Folau is Parra bound I think. Him and Hock attacking down the left could be devastating.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Folau is Parra bound I think. Him and Hock attacking down the left could be devastating.'"
That's the report I saw (hence the wink), but just mentioning his availability has got posters going.
god help Englands RC in the WC if he gets back his form pre AFL.
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