The thread stays for now, just. Tad and LTID raise valid points, but if any of you get anymore personal than it is now then I'm binning it.

Invincible – If I nagged then I wouldn’t be in the position that I’m into today. The people doing the nagging is the likes of yourself, tad and Shebert dip who amongst others have nagged for me to get a ‘real job’ in the ‘real world’ for years. Has it worked? No.

I get results unlike you lot and it’s just slowly starting to financially pay off.

damo, you may not believe me but i hope it takes off and you do well

I do believe you mate and I wish the best for you too. Whilst there might be still a debate to be had on here hopefully sometime in the future we can all call everything a truce and do away with these heated debates. But to be frank I’d rather just leave the debate here.

You may not believe me but I think it’s sick that people past a certain age have to work in bottom end jobs. We should be in a society where career paths are clear from starting out in the working world and until retirement. Instead some people have the misfortune to have the same job that they hate for most of their lives. I agree that in life we have to do things we don’t like at times and I’ve done it by been on the dole. Ideally for the years I’ve been unemployed I’d rather would have had a job stacking shelves in a supermarket but supermarkets have treated me with no respect whatsoever when I tried to pave out a job in their stores. I was viewed as an endless stream of unemployed people to work for free in their stores at their disposal. But we don’t live in an ideal world and I can’t change what’s happened in the past. Circumstances have changed since those early attempts to gain employment in a supermarket. To go back to them to stack shelves would be a massive waste of my potential which I’ve spent years not fulfilling. I’m grateful that I’m in this position to pursue all of this which is off the backs of a society that has been they for me when I’ve needed it.

I think there is a larger debate to be had regarding benifits and people receiving dole money and my personal opinion is that a lot of people are frustrated by this (me included) and you seem to get the brunt of people's frustrations regarding this.
There are loads of people out there (again sadly I deal with them most days) who abuse the system take money from tax payers and have no intention of ever working in their life. These people get on my wick and shouldn't receive a penny, it's people like this that probably get u the stick u get.
I believe there should be help for people who need it but the ones that sit on their back sides with no intention of ever doing anything shouldn't get a penny.
In terms of yourself it appears to me at least you are trying to do something positive about your situation. I personally if I was in your shoes would have gone down the route of Tad, invincable etc and any job is better than nothing, but from what I have read would not count you with the "scroungers" who do anoy me, because as far as I can see you are trying to do something positive. Not what I would do but hey we are all different.

Luckily I am classed as a professional with a well paid job and university degree. To fund uni I had to work 3 jobs and after uni I had 2 almost full time jobs till I got my career, so as I say I would in your situation gone about things differently but who's to say what's right and what's wrong. It's people who have no intention of getting off benifits that I have a issue with.


Also people who need and deserve benifits don't always get them. A friend of my dad worked all his life as a printer. Got made redundant and instead of claiming took the only job avalable in a hand car wash. When that job went he couldn't find any work, but was told he could not claim anything for I think 6 weeks because he had just left a job. A man who had paid tax all his life and only needed a little help while trying to get another job

I broke my own rules of ignoring any thread started by Damo.

I now know why I put that rule in place to start with.

Colour me not giving a flying f**k about Damo, his antics, his attention seeking or his hair brain work avoidance schemes in any way shape or form but good luck regardless kid.

This? I don't quite understand. 2 months in a row, i have worked over 200hours per month, and therefore I am flexible in working hours and can include this on my cv, as I work anywhere and everywhere to get these hours. Not to mention I get paid more than claiming job seekers allowance. Pride as well comes into it.

How do you get results, unlike us lot?

I am intrigued

I am intrigued as to the business plan that allows you to pay yourself £100 pw for 26 weeks?
It just doesn't add up.

Will you be providing invoices for each shirt sold?
What if the shirts need to be returned under the 'Sale of Goods act'? How will you refund them?
Is it cash only?
Do I need to pay VAT on the shirt?
Do you have a business account into which you will pay each £10?
Will you pay tax?
Are you now registered as 'self employed' and no longer a statistic on the 'Unemployed List' ?

I could go on, but my lunch time is limited here in the 'real world' of employment

Indeed. Damo will need to sell at least 260 shirts just to pay his wage for half a year, and that's without paying the costs associated with producing and selling those shirts. I dont think VAT is an issue as I think there is a threshold on how much a "company" has to make or be forecasted to make before VAT kicks in.
National Insurance may be an issue though, and Damo probably should register with HMRC.

This is not a result – it is bad career planning.

There are people in the world that earn more in one hour than what you’ve earned for working over 400 hours.

You’re not intrigued whatsoever. You are just looking at ways to attack my enterprise from every possible angle. I wouldn’t put it pass you to buy a t-shirt just so you can find (You won’t) or make fault with it.

I have a Nephew who never wants to work his way from the Bottom Up, and wants to rub shoulders with Celebrities.

He has Aspergers.

I think we will leave it here.