Stevie Ward will start at 13 on sunday

I look forward to seeing him in action and in his natural position IMO.

Outrage. Really?

In terms of facts, it's 3 season tickets over the last 10 years not 1. I've attended plenty over the last year and a bit, so can comment on that period with some confidence. Oh and the freebies I've had from you are hardly freebies as you were happy not to pay a taxi fare when I drove, and were very happy to drink the beer I bought you on those couple of occasions over the last 10 years.

I've not pulled the wool over anyone's eyes, simply stated the case that applies to me. As we discussed at lunchtime, during the lunch I bought for you, the floating supporters as you seem to have cast me, are the ones that the club should be aiming to attract as they are the ones who really provide the profit rather than the running costs.

You yourself have stated on many an occasion recently that the main reason you are still going is because you enjoy the social occasion with members of your family. I wonder what you will do when they are no longer going on a Friday evening, will you buy a ticket to go watch on your own, or will you too be a floating supporter as I clearly am these days?

Supporters staying away from the club (I'm not staying away btw, I've just got better things to do at the moment given the quality of the product) isn't good news in the long term, but it can act as a wake up call as long as those in positions to do something about the quality of the product, actually do something about the product. As I say, I'm not "staying away" for any particular reason, but I wouldn't preach to those who choose to as I can see their point.

Just to clarify, I didn't interpret batley's post too literally and saw it more as a metaphor for a type of fan. The type of fan Leeds need to be concerned about. batley has addressed that point in his latest reply so I won't repeat his sentiments but simply agree with them.



The point wasn't that some 'supporters' would leave vowing never to return (that could indeed be bad news for the club) but they would only return perhaps when they believed the club was playing to or close to their potential. As I said earlier that situation should really be a given at a professional club anyway.

I think there is a perception (rightly or wrongly) that the players are holding something (perhaps even a lot) back and comments such as those expressed by McGuire via twitter the other week do little to allay that impression.

What did McGuire say

The depth to which I will go for a free lift and a couple of pints are not relevant and not something I am proud of.
I thought I was a potential client you were buying lunch for?
I'm sure I can find someone to give me a lift and buy me a beer.
Do you have any evidence that supporters are "staying away" due to the quality of the product?

Looks like we'll be down a stand off tomorrow. You lot to surpass the 12 points looks a reasonable bet!

I wouldn't worry about that if I were you.

Leeds have been a stand off down all season.