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Quote: Famous "This is what it boils down to for me. We have seen it in many sporting teams in the past and it has happened at Wigan in the past. Old players way past their best being kept on in blind loyalty for their past deeds, Peacock, Maguire and Sinfield immediately spring to mind. Having just a couple of players like this is okay but throw in the likes of Webb, Bailey etc and it is a rapidly aging, and slow, team that are declining rapidly. No doubt these players are also taking up a huge chunk of the salary cap as well.

Some tough decisions need to be made at Headingley and some of these players need to be replaced and fresh, younger players brought in. If Leeds just continue like everything is fine they will end up with a pretty mediocre team, probably much like Bradford are now, in a couple of years. This isnt any anti-Leeds bile as I lived in Headingley as a student and used to go quite regularly. However that was quite a number of years ago now and many of the players that were coming through then, Sinfi'eld, Maguire and co are still the core of the team now and are no where near the players they once were.'"


It's a difficult one. It's ok saying ''ageing players...get rid''. But some of our best players remain the most experienced players.

There were people on here that felt we should be moving on burrow last season, but then he single handedly produced the brilliance that won us the grand final.

When we play well, these players are experienced, but when we play poorly they are aged and past it. The way the team is playing as a unit, and hooker are the 2 biggest issues. Wigan performs brilliantly as a unit.

As bad as we were, i still feel the ''veterans'' have one last glorious hurrah in them. But it's not like our entire team is old, it's just certain players are getting on abit - peacock, leuluai, sinfield, and not far behind burrow and mcguire.

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Quote: tad rhino "no i wouldn't call him ageing.

i'd call him a show pony who for all his posturing rarely puts in the graft'"


finally, someone on here who doesn't over him or just moronically post 'classic bailey'

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Quote: nantwichexile "ABSOLUTELY agree with everything here. Could not have put it better myself.

I too think this team will miraculously raise its game for the CC semi

I also agree with most of the post as well
However I do not hope (even half!!) that Wigan beat us. Want to beat Wigan and get to the final. It's the only realistic chance of a final we have.
Don't think we will beat Wigan. No matter how much we want a Cup ring doesn't make up for the current gulf in quality between the two teams. 6 weeks is a long time and alot can change but at the moment I am not optimistic for the semi

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Quote: Wilbred T Pricklepop "finally, someone on here who doesn't over him or just moronically post 'classic bailey''"


don't get me wrong every so often he puts in a top class display. sadly it's nowhere near often enough

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Quote: Wilbred T Pricklepop "finally, someone on here who doesn't over him or just moronically post 'classic bailey''"


There is a minority, I just daren't speak up.
I'm happy to praise him when he plays well, like he did on many occassions last year, and I also don't agree with this image of him as a cheap shot merchant that opposition fans have of him.
He's had a few good games this year, but on Friday he came on, didn't win a collision, him and Moore were really soft defensively, and then he gave away a ridiculous penalty rubbing the forearm in Gelling's face. We were defending our line, down 2 or 3 tries, I would love to know what he was thinking.

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "I'm pretty sure that Leeds record against the top sides during the regular season last year was far worse. Not a single victory against any Top 4 team until Round 27 away at Huddersfield when they were already shot. Leeds finished 5th on the back of whipping all the whipping boy SL rabble.

Looking at the rest of this season, of the top sides they've only got Warrington, Catalan and Huddersfield to play and all the rest of the fixtures are against whipping boy SL rabble, therefore plenty of easy pickings and points to collect in order to ensure a 5th or 6th place finish on the ladder.'"


People like you are the reason why the Whino's are known and detested the world over - McDermott got that bit right in his post match talk on Sky!

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Quote: sandaltrinityfan "People like you are the reason why the Whino's are known and detested the world over - McDermott got that bit right in his post match talk on Sky!'"

People like me or Whinos fans in general are not responsible for whipping boy SL rabble being whipping boy SL rabble.

Facts are facts.

It's about time whipping boy SL rabble clubs got their act together.

At least that way, clubs like Leeds would be duly punished for being crap throughout the regular season.

They won't be.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



Quote: sandaltrinityfan "People like you are the reason why the Whino's are known and detested the world over - McDermott got that bit right in his post match talk on Sky!'"

World over?thats pushing it a bit innit?Where I now live most people have never heard of Leeds icon_biggrin.gif

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