Peter lorimer announced the figures pre match. Someone said they were also in the programme.

The figure includes all coaching staff too don't forget, also the medical side.

Great win on Saturday.

Please elaborate on why those 2 snippets are daft & completely wrong.

So 2 years ago, we were top of the League One, but were having a dip in form post Christmas. However, we were a team playing in a low league, and being by far the biggest team with most assets available to it.

Currently we are a mid-table/playoff team in a league where a third of teams have recent (last 3 or 4 seasons) premier league expeience. We don't have a vast amount more resources than anyone else.

It may not be as much progress as people would have liked, but its certainly not going backwards


On the second point I would agree that there is stuff wrong at the club, there is at most clubs, but considering that between 2002-2007 there the club in free fall, suffered multiple relegations, any player that was able to be sold, going for bargain basement prices to anyone interested, multiple chairmen, multiple managers, dressing room problems, cliques, over the hill journeymen, financial irregularities, points deductions, massive debts and massive losses I don't think you can compare the situation at the club at the moment to being f***ed from top to bottom, considering where we have been within recent history.

On a glance at the league table, I make it 18 out of 24 clubs in the Championship that have been in the Premier League since it formed.

I also reckon 12 of those have been in the PL more recently than Leeds, including 7 of the 8 currently above Leeds in the table. Cardiff being the exception in the top 8. I might be wrong, but I don't think I am. Plus Leicester who I think went down the same year as Leeds?

I Read earlier that Grayson has loaned a massive 66 players in his time at Leeds.
Not only do I find this embarrassing but I'm struggling to think of any who have been anything more than average.

Quote: tad rhino "I Read earlier that Grayson has loaned a massive 66 players in his time at Leeds. Not only do I find this embarrassing but I'm struggling to think of any who have been anything more than average.'" 66 since we got relegated in 2004 31 loans for Simon Grayson, 5 of which were emergency cover for goal keeping www.thebeatengeneration.co.uk/tb ... n-players/

Quote: tad rhino "I Read earlier that Grayson has loaned a massive 66 players in his time at Leeds. Not only do I find this embarrassing but I'm struggling to think of any who have been anything more than average.'" 66 since we got relegated in 2004 31 loans for Simon Grayson, 5 of which were emergency cover for goal keeping www.thebeatengeneration.co.uk/tb ... n-players/

right sorry. still far too many for me

Interesting how Redknapp's undeclared money has been shown to go straight out of the football club through Monaco, of all places.

Of course, Harry's not non-domiciled, so HMRC can nail him for it. If he'd have officially lived in Monaco, then there would have been no comeback on how much he took out of the club.

Looks like we're getting Ben Parker on loan.

I was happy about this until I heard about his petulance in the Pavilion on Saturday! We can do without behaviour like that at our club!

Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans...

The quote in the Leeds programme was

Now there's too important weasel words herenot "player budgets"icon_wink.gif of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! rlLinkyrl

You talk as if all theses things are in the past. The clubs finances remain as opaque as ever and we've missed a chance to buy the clubs property assets back at below the market value for no logical reason (well they are a few obvious possibilities but they all point back to KB).

The club may not have the direct financial problems it used to have but it Bates is leading the club down the exact same path as he did with Chelsea and the only people who came out of that well were Bates and his cronies.

There are plenty of things on that list that are still happening, but the point is that not all of them are, so we're in a much better position than we were 4or 5 years ago

There are plenty of things on that list that are still happening, but the point is that not all of them are, so we're in a much better position than we were 4or 5 years ago

Quote: Omar Little " Quote: Omar Little "And certain players are on £15k a week. This comes from a first team player. Becchio, snodgrass and mccormack are three. Also, and i don't know which idiot agreed it, but paynter and brown are also on this. Leeds wage bill is £11m a year. More than enough at this level'" Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans... The quote in the Leeds programme was Now there's too important weasel words herenot "player budgets"icon_wink.gif of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! rlLinkyrl'" Also the player budget broken down here as well www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/0 ... war-chest/

Quote: Omar Little " Quote: Omar Little "And certain players are on £15k a week. This comes from a first team player. Becchio, snodgrass and mccormack are three. Also, and i don't know which idiot agreed it, but paynter and brown are also on this. Leeds wage bill is £11m a year. More than enough at this level'" Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans... The quote in the Leeds programme was Now there's too important weasel words herenot "player budgets"icon_wink.gif of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! rlLinkyrl'" Also the player budget broken down here as well www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/0 ... war-chest/