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on Hardaker, i can see an off season on the weights. Has all the skills/footwork to make it justs needs a bit of bulk, but not too much to dull his pace methinks.

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Quote: Ferdy "Don't really see the point of the message. Particulary the latter part'"


i'm not sure it's sour grapes he is just saying it's the end of an era not to see the name senior on the number 4 shirt perhaps?

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Quote: Rastrick Rhino "on Hardaker, i can see an off season on the weights. Has all the skills/footwork to make it justs needs a bit of bulk, but not too much to dull his pace methinks.'"


Definately. He's still so raw and has only had one season in Super League under his belt.
Despite his size he didn't look a weak link defensively when playing centre last season, against some very good centres as well.
He didn't look to pass to his winger very often but I would imagine that will come with time. It should also help that he sticks to the same side of the pitch for the majority of the year, last year he was filling it at both left and right centre, although that just shows his talent.

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I personally think(i may be a little biased) we have one of the most exciting back lines in super league, fast,young(webb apart) and gifted with skill. coupled with a the new additions to the pack a good season and beyond hopefully

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In regards to the Senior quote, that quote is in the context of a tweet he made earlier in the day when he said "Looks like its finally the end of an era, it's been a pleasure, a honour but most of all enjoyable."

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Really happy with the squad. Feel sorry for Delaney - losing his number and being given 15, which seems to be the cursed number.

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Quote: leicester_rhino "Yep. Keep 'em coming. I'd forgotten Fielden was still even playing in SL. Is he still at Wigan?'"


The complete list of multiple winners still due to play in SL - 2012 are:

At Leeds: (Played in winning GF's)

Peacock (7), Bailey (5), Burrow (5), Jones-Buchanan (5), McGuire (5), Sinfield (5), Ablett (4), Kirke (4), Leuluia (4), Hall (3), Smith (3), Webb (3)

Other multiple winners playing elsewhere in SL - 2012:

Lauitiiti (5), Diskin (4), Fielden (4), L Pryce (4), Wellens (4), Gilmour (2)

? Martin Gleeson (2)

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Quote: Charlieboo "Really happy with the squad. Feel sorry for Delaney - losing his number and being given 15, which seems to be the cursed number.'"

No such thing as a cursed shirt. Lost his back starting shirt which is the correct decision and one of the sub shirts which seems right to me.

Smith also higher up than I suspected he might be.

But when all is said and done, they are only numbers.

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I only hope Delaney makes a speedy recovery from this devastating news. Really looked the part in the second row last season.

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Quote: tvoc "The complete list of multiple winners still due to play in SL - 2012 are

Nick Scruton? Would he have got one for 2007?

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I haven't included any known or assumed squad winners rings and listed only the multiple winners from actual Grand Final appearances.

On that basis Scruton has the one winners ring (200icon_cool.gif picked up in his final Leeds appearance.

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Quote: tvoc "I only hope Delaney makes a speedy recovery from this devastating news. Really looked the part in the second row last season.'"

Seconded, I like Delaney, I really didn't want to add him to the list below!

2012 - Brett Delaney
2011 - Ben Cross
2010 - Greg Eastwood
2009 - Greg Eastwood
2008 - Unassigned
2007 - Jamie Thackray
2006 - Unassigned
2005 - Danny Ward
2004 - Chris Feather
2003 - Chris Feather

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That unassigned bloke didn't do too badly the season he was here TBF.

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Quote: totalloiner "i'm not sure it's sour grapes he is just saying it's the end of an era not to see the name senior on the number 4 shirt perhaps?'"


That was my take on it as well.

His original tweet COULD have been read as Senior announcing his retirement and plenty sent him tweets to that effect.

He then responded later about the end of an era with the number 4 shirt that (to me) put in context his original tweet that I think was mischievous in trying to imply his retirement when in fact he was having a joke about not hasving the number 4 shirt and it being the end of an era.

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Random musings....

Good to see confidence being given to young players - Hardaker and Watkins in the backs and McShane in the forwards. I have no problem with McShane being given first dig at starting hooker, or the fact he's not Buderus. Hood is realistically third choice if Burrow remains the bench impact player.

We look a bit short of real firepower in the backrow, and have a lot of unproven/possibly average forwards on the books. If Ambler's number is indicative of his place in the pecking order I'd be surprised if he stays. Clarkson's number looks a bit low?

Lee Smith in 14 shows that he's first replacement back if anyone gets injured/loses form. Looks like he's going to fight for a place. Just out of interest I put the 2007 season review DVD on last night and he was pretty quick back then. If he can regain that speed he'll be a huge asset.

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