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| Quote: Wilbred T Pricklepop "[sizeTMFMISL[/size'"
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "Enough about Briscoe, I'd like to know why the OP decided to put Yeaman on the wing
There's nothing new in fans of victorious SL-title winning clubs glancing through their club-biased spectacles demanding the selection of their club players for the national side at the expense of all available positions and all other players.
I still recall with fond memories some of the laughable GB selection suggestions from Saints fans during some of their glory days... Mike Bennett, Tim Jonkers, John Stankevitch, Anthony Stewart, Ade Gardner, etc. Unfortunately, Ade Gardner became a reality!
My only surprise is that the OP didn't select BJ-B on the wing instead of Yeaman.
On another note, if Yeaman was the real deal centre for international duty, the absurdity of selecting a Super League standard squad player forward like Carl Ablett ahead of him at centre ought to be viewed as clear cut nonsense. The tragedy of the situation is that it isn't nonsense because Yeaman ain't a much better (if at all) option than Ablett.
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| Quote: G1 "Ahhh yes, Manning-gate, I remember it well. Danny pestered me to go with him.'"
To be fair, he changed his tune once he'd been made aware of a few ethical concerns.
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "Enough about Briscoe, I'd like to know why the OP decided to put Yeaman on the wing
The OP recognises that Yeaman offers solidity in both attack & defence. Briscoe doesn't. We aren't going to beat Oz by scintilating free-flowing RL, a mammoth defensive effort is required by all. Hence Ablett in the centre & Yeaman onto the wing. Solid but unspectacular will give us a chance in the 4 nations
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| You can't just sit back and let Oz attack you all game because we'll get no where. The OP is clueless if he really thinks that Briscoe doesn't offer anything. Yeaman and Briscoe work great together hence why they scored 39 tries betweem them in the league, and no other partnership got near them.
Like I said, there is nothing wrong with Briscoe's defence he's one of the best defensive wingers in England and is capable of producing magic too!
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| Well lets hope he proves me wrong then. I appreciate what he offers in offence btw. I also never suggested we 'sit back & let Oz attack us'. If anything I suggest we take the game to them up front and back it up with a mean defence (similar to Leeds in the GF). Briscoe (if selected) WILL be targetted - time will tell if he's up to it
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| Personally would leave yeaman and briscoe in the team. Would have ablett on the bench instead of wilkin. Would drop JJB from the bench and replace him with Bailey.
Would keep sinfield where he is at the moment
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| At the risk of being very pessimistic it doesnt really matter who we play; we will lose to Australia and New Zealand...
They are better than any combination of players we can put out...
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| Thats the spirit eh! For once I think we have a pack which can compete, despite the loss of Sam Burgess. Its the backs i'm not so confident about
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| thoughts?
we will dick wales, get slaughtered by the aussies and lose by 14 against the kiwi's
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| Quote: scary jester "At the risk of being very pessimistic it doesnt really matter who we play; we will lose to Australia and New Zealand...
They are better than any combination of players we can put out...'"
Depends on which NZ team turns up... the good one or the indisciplined one? I think England are in with a chance against them. Australia? No chance.
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| Quote: AJC "Thats the spirit eh! For once I think we have a pack which can compete, despite the loss of Sam Burgess. Its the backs i'm not so confident about'"
England/GB have usually had a pack which can compete.
But for only 60 minutes.
It's the remaining 20 minutes which is the worry.
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| I wpouldn't be too critical of England's performance considering this was a warm up match with several newcomers. I am please the Frogs gave us a tough physical game and I thought on the whole our defence was good. Sure there were too many errors but best get them out of the way in a game of no importance.
I thought our most creative players were Roby, Graham, Sinfield and Chase the first three made a big effort in defence. I wouldn't drop Sinfield neither would I drop JJB or Wilkin. They made a few errors but they were as good as Westwood and as both have good stamina and are good all round rugby players who can cover for several positions. I am not sure how long JJB was on but I think he offers more to be on from the start rather than as an impact player.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "England/GB have usually had a pack which can compete.
But for only 60 minutes.
It's the remaining 20 minutes which is the worry.'"
True, but have a good feeling this year. Ellis & Westwood is as good a 2nd row as you'll find, Roby's form is spot on and the props are going well. Just a shame Burgess isnt at 13. Its more in hope rhan expectation but I think we've got a chance - which is more than in previous years
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "You can't just sit back and let Oz attack you all game because we'll get no where. The OP is clueless if he really thinks that Briscoe doesn't offer anything. Yeaman and Briscoe work great together hence why they scored 39 tries betweem them in the league, and no other partnership got near them.
Like I said, there is nothing wrong with Briscoe's defence he's one of the best defensive wingers in England and is capable of producing magic too!'"
I fully agree Yeamon and Briscoe should be the left centre-wing partnership for England, but I'd hazard a guess that Ablett and Hall must have got pretty close to their 39.
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