come off it, that was Mathers. He carries on if anyone dares has a different opinion to his on Twitter

Call me old school, but I remember :

- Players in the top flight copping eight game bans for the sorts of things that get a couple of matches these days

- A least one top flight (prior to joining Leeds ?) copping a Sine Die ban, which in reality put them out of the game for about 6 or 9 months ?

And for a few of you that know me outside of these boards ... Massively incorrect on a number of levels

Hanson

I long ago gave up on these forums, but your original post has tempted me out of retirement.

It's probably the most childish, bitter post I've ever seen on RL Fans, and that's going some.

Just what exactly do you hope to achieve by a boycott of England RL matches?

And I'm not defending Tomkins behaviour; it was nearly as immature as your reaction to it.

I was on the tube back to Baker Street after the game with a lot of very knowledgeable Leeds fans, and in discussion there wasn't mention of that incident; there was some (in my opinion) justified comment that Wigan got the "rub of the green" overall, but they showed an appreciation of perspective that you seem to lack.

An unbelievable thread.

Who is this Sam Tompkins anyway?

We've had this discussion on several occasions and a conclusion has been drawn that fans from nearly every team frequently misspells his name along with Mcguire and Burrows so an amnesty has been called on such spellings.

More often than not, it's usually by the "could of", "should of" and "would of" brigade.

I agree the RFL should censure Tomkins for gesturing at the crowd and that the respect the referees get is just not good enough, Tomkins should not be grabbing the referee for example

The attitude of Wigan fans to this is typical of a "my club is more important than the game" a spreading disease (it was an attitude invented in Wigan after all), it is why attendances from neutrals at cup finals and anyone at internationals have fallen because there is no community to the game, there is more joy in others failure than in their own success

i will be at all of england's internationals this year, i didnt attend the non international farce where players wore england shirts earlier this year - i hope tomkins turns out to be the messiah that wigan fans believe him to be rather than a player playing in a position for his club to hide his defensive frailties and because he couldnt oust a NRL reject from his preferred position who looks good in a winning team and barely registers at the highest level

Welcome back ... How was Gerry Rafferty ?

What's all this about?
No one by the name of Tompkins played in the C Cup Final!

Damm, I wish I'd have thought about putting it like that ...

When was this?

and there was no player called maguire either.weve been through this before

Because he's thick.

and there was no player called maguire either.weve been through this before