You can't have it both ways.

If we lose it's his fault and if we win it has nothing to do with him? That doesn't stack up at all.

Even if we lose 70-0 Mac will still be at the training ground come Monday morning. So I'd change tact in wanting us to get stuffed.

I'd like to see us win, amazing that ain't it.

It would be nice to see Leeds playing their heart out. But they are putting a shift in terms of effort, they are just falling well short on the application. With a shaky coach behind them it isn't going to be of much help.

he is just saying what everyone else is thinking.....

Talking sense in the face of tery.

Typical Bloodbath.

Maybe McDermott senses the players are putting too much pressure on themselves and wants to lift some of that by making it clear that they are underdogs for this game (which they are, by some distance - any Leeds fan who doesn't genuinely believe that wants their head testing).

McMuppet is a clueless moron and shouldn't be let anywhere near the media. Once again I've had to endure ridicule for being a Leeds fan... from a Bulls fan???

He said "we might be playing s*it at the moment but at least our coach isn't making a tit of himself on national TV."

Mcdermott has seen sense!

I, with a glass half full mentality, would hope that was the train of thought Mac was tapping into. But if we're talking about application or failure of application - Mac being interviewed is always a bomb. Always a painful experience to watch!! (shudder)

Let's be fair here - Tony Smith was hardly a model of eloquence and personality in front of the cameras, particularly when things weren't going well.

As has been pointed out, it wasn't unknown for him to make similar comments to the media either.

Classic Macca

I agree with him. I'm not going to Wigan either, expecting a win or otherwise.

I'm off to the pub expecting you to buy my beer all night. More chance of a Leeds win I guess.

What a plonker Professional Sport is about 2 things.

1) Winning
2) Entertaining the paying public

Sadly Mr McDermott you are no good at either, so go now and take the scumbag Lowes with you.

The point i was trying to make is now you are told that winning does not matter and about 3 years down the line they are in leagues so winning does become an issue just look at what being 6th in super league has done to this forum . I have come across only 1 coach in 3 years who was a bit 'too serious lets say ' We have for the record got 17 signed on and no one gets more game time, coaching or favouritism than the next.

How do you feel about him saying that everyones opinion apart from hetheringtion and the players is irrelevant? I would be gutted if Maguire said that, if any club didnt have fans they wouldnt exist in Super League, fans opinions are extremely relevant IMO.

What McDermott says to the press is unlikely to be what he says to the players - hopefully

Smith always banged on about performance - he is a pretty good coach.

They are relevant to the business.

They should be irrelevant when it comes to team selection and tactics.

If fans seriously believe their opinions on individual players and strategy carry any weight within the dressing room they're only fooling themselves. You reckon Maguire picks his teams on the basis of whose name gets the largest cheer when it's read out over the tannoy?