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Quote: J20 "Came to see your views on this but all their is is someone making multiple points around the point you don't get an English but British passport... Who gives a f...?
My sentiments exactly, how petty. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Does keith still work for the post office, god forbid anyone putting wrong details on a letter

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "It was issued in the UK.

England doesn't issue passports because it isn't a country and does not have the authority to set up an agency to issue them.'"


England is in the UK.

The country that issued said passport was never questioned, more the country where the passport was issued.

These are two different statements but you seem to be deliberately confusing the two to validate your point.

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Quote: Saddened! "Despite his passport would he not still be 'non-federation trained'? '"


That would be my interpretation on the quota issue.

Leeds currently have Delaney, Buderus and Hauraki on quota and under contract for 2012.

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "It was issued in the UK.

England doesn't issue passports because it isn't a country and does not have the authority to set up an agency to issue them.'"


Non-factual.

It was issued in England, within the UK. I didn't say it was issued by England. I can be more precise and give you the county it was issued in if you like? Counties can't issue passports, but they still have defined geographical boundaries within which the act of issuing a passport can take place.

Since you're committed to a flight of pedantry, England is a country. It is designated a "Constituent Country" of the soverign state "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland." The term "country" is often used, for convenience, to mean a sovereign state. That isn't strictly accurate however, as "country" and "sovereign state" have different definitions.

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Sod it go on then... You can technically argue that it's a European passport... How do you like them apples? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: J20 "Sod it go on then... You can technically argue that it's a European passport... How do you like them apples?
Apples? I prefer cake.

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Good thread this.

Did someone mention cake?

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Hauraki to Ull KR.

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I heard cake was mentioned.

Hauraki won't go to Hull KR. Not enough cake.

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So in summary Chris Heighington's mum is a cake? But not an English one?

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Quote: J20 "So in summary Chris Heighington's mum is a cake? But not an English one?'"


That's correct. There's no such thing as an English cake. England doesn't have cake-baking powers. She was baked in an English cake tin though.

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Quote: El Diablo "That's correct. There's no such thing as an English cake. England doesn't have cake-baking powers. She was baked in an English cake tin though.'"


It's all a little confusing when the country is royally represented by a pink and yellow checked marzipan wrapped cake and a lemon infused walnut cake.

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Ok.. Back on topic...

For me, this would be a fantastic signing. A real workhorse who is all quality. Lots of tackles, lots of drives, good offload game - a similar player to Paul Gallen, just not quite as aggressive.

Now, his best position is at loose, doing all this dirty work in the middle of the park - sticking him in the second row is an option, but I think you lose some attacking structure out wide (thats if we ever see any structure again) as he would prefer to work up the middle around the ruck, or if you make him play wide, you lose some of his workload...

Now, I'm going to throw something out there that will raise a few eyebrows and no doubt, alot of people will completely disagree...

If we were to sign him, and as part of this 're-building' stage we are looking to reduce the supposed player power, and change the culture (petulant, spoilt brats) within the current team, I would look to offload Sinfield. He would still be in great demand so we'd probably get a decent fee, and it would free up alot of cap space to then sign a quality, lead the team around the park scrum half or stand off to play alongside Mcguire, with Burrow also retained for interchange/rotation. This would massively change the dynamic of the team, but I get the feeling thats probably what is needed at the moment.

On Sinfield, some may see this as harsh, particularly with the fact he is our best ever captain, and is always a willing worker, trying to sort the team out. However, I honestly feel his best days are behind him. For all that he does put his all in, and clearly he is an inspirational captain, his skill levels are not great. Particularly this year his passing has been worse, watch and see his passes are often too high/low, slightly behind the man, complete hospital passes, or as has been seen many a time this year, Interceptions...

I want to be clear I'm not trying to make a scapegoat of Sinfield, he has been one of our most consitant performers, and even when the team is playing badly, he is always working his nuts off to try turn things around. BUt, if we are signing Heighington (or any other loose who plays this sort of game), they should be played at loose up the middle and bring in somebody else to organise (alongside Buderus if he stays). Thoughts?

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