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| McD is staring to break club records – unfortunately they are at the wrong end of the record book.
I said I’d give him the benefit of the doubt until the end of the season but after performances like that it is becoming increasingly harder to bite my tongue.
In the Long bar last night he said, and I paraphrase a little, “we have to look within to find answers, the lads can’t train any harder than they do – it is in them all to play better we just have to find a way to get it out”
No Brian, it’s your fookin’ job to get them to play better.
How many times last night did we try the power play? We can’t even get the basics anywhere near right and we’re trying to run it in on the fifth!
This is a Championship winning squad and we are rapidly becoming the whipping boys of the league. On last nights performance I’m struggling to think of a club that isn’t going to take two points off us.
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| Quote: craigizzard "I feel sorry for Hauraki. Whilst he has had a nightmare start on the field, I think that shows up the coaches more than him
My point is this - GH has done a superb job in the past but he doesn't learn from his mistakes and his decision making of late has been appalling. In the commercial world any boss that made the kind of errors he has made would no longer have a job. It could be that GH stays to run the commercial side of the club and the Rhinos bring someone in to run the run the rugby side.
The mistakes:
1. Not spending the money on a top coach - he saw what happened with Lance and Powell and he repeats the action with McDermott
2. Not getting a grip of the player power culture at Leeds - even Smith struggled to cope with that. This will not change anytime soon when you keep giving long contract extensions. They got rid of the last 3 coaches and they will get rid of this one - maybe its time we got rid of some the players. This also effects overseas recruitment with players seemingly not wanting to come to Leeds
3. Over loyalty to players Senior should not be still playing nor should the likes of Ali, Kylie etc - the idea of Barrie McDermott as head of youth development is a joke
4. Poor recruitment - GH is never at the front of the queue when it comes to recruiting he is always picking up the scraps
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| GH has got to act today and get rid of these 2 clowns,it's time for him to stand up and say i made a mistake.we are a shambles and a laughing stock.
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| Quote: MjM "You've been telling us after every bad defeat for the past decade that coach has "lost" the team..'"
Liar. Never mentioned it once since Fox was in charge.
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Quote: RoyFrancis "Precisely! McD has lost the team, that team does not want to play for this coach. There is no team spirit and they were just going thriugh the motions.'"
I think the team expended too much effort in the pre-match warm-up hugging, bonding & demonstrating their lurv for each other.
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| I think the coaching set-up has to take the bulk of the blame for the dismal efforts shown by the team. Ok the players are not performing but that has to come down to what is being done during the week, unless of course it's all the Nandos and Costa coffees they're having.
But if the coaching team goes who do we replace them with. Getting a top quality coach to come in for next season won't be a problem as if we look now a team will be more willing to allow them to leave as they have time to look for a replacement. However in the interim who is available? I think John Kear would jump at the chance to try his hand with a big team and prove people of his abilities. Someone has already mentioned Murray and what about McClennan?
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| McD must go! Even given that several players should not wear the much-loved shirt, he and his lack of game plan, lack of defence coaching, lack of inspiration, lack of proper use of forwards, lack of ideas, lack of understanding of what is wrong and what needs to be adjusted means he must carry the can. I am sorry but Kirke and Cross bring us nothing! If McD thinks Bailey is outstanding then heaven help us. He is still a liability and, often along with JJB, has become a penalty giftvoucher. I felt like weeping last night!!
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| 1) Not Brian Noble .... Just because he's English and available does not qualify you for the Leeds job.
2) Murray is the logical choice, but I understand that when he left, he upset GH. However, just in the same way that the sleeve now has to appreciate that getting BMD in was a mistake, he will also have to eat 'humble pie' and get Murray back if only until the end of the season.
- Proven coach in both hemispheres of the game
- Grand Final reaching coach in both hemispheres
- Noted for producing a big, nasty defensive unit .... The sort of thing that you'd though the Marine would have been able to do ?
- Noted for making average players better (Kirke ?)
- Leeds legend and popular with the fans
- Noted for sorting out player culture
- Has stated on occasions that he'd love to come back
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| It's time for a complete overhaul of entire structure of the club. Out with the joke of a coaching team, get rid of the other Mcdermott, get rid of half the players, too many as beens.
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| I was all in favour of giving him a season but not after watching the way we are playing and the lack of defence. We need someone like Graham Murray. Get him on the plane now! He will certainly put some backbone into are team.
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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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| we only have to look at the way Dalglish has stablised Liverpool.
I didnt expect us to win anything i.e SL for awhile I thought 2-3 years of transition,but I did'nt expect us to become an utter laughing stock.This team is older,but nobody is telling me they are not capable of competing.
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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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| bring in a decent stopgap for rest of season,then go for Nathan Brown
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| It's time for the return of Daryl Powell.
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| Quote: George Agdgdgwngo® "It's time for the return of Daryl Powell.'"
Gotcha has his di-ck in his hand over that prospect.
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| I suspect the leeds management focus for the next couple of years will be off field rather than on field activities. We are having to find funding for the southstand and I can see player and coaching staff recruitment and retention being sacrificed and done on the cheap for 2 or 3 years at least while money is diverted away from the team.
Leeds are guaranteed a franchise and with no relegation to drive on field standards, a fallow period (probably outside the top seems to be the plan. (this is one of the drawbacks of the licence system as it allows failure to be tolerated without consequence)
Expect extensions to current playing staff contracts regardless of form or attitude. McDermott is clearly the cheapest coaching option in the league and that will probably be the determining factor in him retaining his job. GHs attitude is clearly we have had a good run (back to back to back is unprecedented after all) and that a period of under-performance wont drop crowds too far to affect the bottom line- hell we turned up in numbers for 30 barren years!
This in my opinion is sporting and commercial suicide. He only has to look 15 miles away to odsal to see how much damage keeping a coach who is way out his depth in the job, long after anyone with any sense can see he is not up to it will do. I'd love to see Murray back even if its just to sort out this season but commercially I just cant see it.
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