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| Quote: Fieldheadrhino "Going on the players I've seen play over the past 25years it's hard enough to pick a team, never mind since the club was formed. My team on players I have seen play would be.
1. Andrew Ettinghausen
2. Marcus Bai
3. Carl Gibson
4. Keith Senior
5. Francis Cummins
6. Garry Schofield
7. Cliff Lyons
8. Jamie Peacock
9. Matt Diskin
10. Barrie McDermott
11. Adrian Morley
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Kevin Sinfield
The Bench
14. Ellery Hanley
15. Roy Powell
16. Danny McGuire
17. Marc Glanville
Coach- Tony Smith'"
100 appearances ?
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "we haven't produced a single British player who is capable of consistently performing at a world class level. I cannot name a single British player who has earned any respect as a world class player at international level either.'"
Adrian Morley
Gareth Ellis
Sam Burgess
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| Quote: Clubber_Lang "Adrian Morley
Gareth Ellis
Sam Burgess'"
Nope.
Morley and Ellis have rarely stood out in a GB or England shirt against the Aussies and Kiwis.
But keep trying.
Sam Burgess has the potential but he's still work in progress.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Leeds may well have been at their most successful in recent years, but it's a celebration of the ordinary overcoming the very ordinary and the absolute rubbish along the way.
My view is that playing standards have nosedived during the SL era and furthermore, we haven't produced a single British player who is capable of consistently performing at a world class level. I cannot name a single British player who has earned any respect as a world class player at international level either. It's a competition of SL clubs dominated by average antipodean players who struggle to nail a first grade gig back home. '"
The only thing that has made this era look very ordinary indeed is the salary cap. However don’t let that blind you to the fact that Super League has played host to some very extraordinary players. Don’t ever think for one minute that the likes of Kieran Cunningham, Sean Long, Danny McGuire, Kevin Sinfield and others only looked good on the field because they played alongside what you call mediocre. These four players in their prompt would fit right into your beloved NRL.
In response to your nosedive point, BBC Four recently did a rerun of the 1978 challenge cup final and I can assure you that there’s been better Leeds and St Helen’s clashes in the super league era. Super League does have its faults, but at its best its produces rugby league quality that is as good as any era they was in the sport.
Unfortunately you let your ignorance dominate your opinions far too much. Whilst we may of not had the teams to beat the best of what’s to offer on the international stage. We’ve certainly have had the players. However I do agree that these players haven’t been consistent enough on the international stage.
Perhaps your greatest downfall of all is the whole ‘NRL rejects come to super league’ line that you dish out on here from time to time. Jamie Lyon went back to the NRL after a stint in Super League. Mark Riddell has recently gone back to play in the NRL for Sydney Roosters. Heck even Tonie Carroll managed to get a lot of seasons with Brisbane after he returned beact to the NRL after a stint with Leeds Rhinos. There’s many more examples, but I’ll give you a chance to mount a proper argument.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Nope.
Morley and Ellis have rarely stood out in a GB or England shirt against the Aussies and Kiwis.
But keep trying.
Sam Burgess has the potential but he's still work in progress.'"
I'm sure you'll be pedantic about the parameters of your own particular definition of "world class"; and, of course, you have specified you are talking about international games, which serves to support your argument due to the gulf in class between GB and Australian teams in recent years - one might argue that Wally Lewis would fail to stand out in a team that was being beaten so easily as GB have been by Australia over the last decade.
But I would imagine many of our antipodean friends involved in the game would happily refer to Adrian Morley and Gareth Ellis as being "world class" given their impact and achievements in the NRL.
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "The only thing that has made this era look very ordinary indeed is the salary cap. However don’t let that blind you to the fact that Super League has played host to some very extraordinary players. Don’t ever think for one minute that the likes of Kieran Cunningham, Sean Long, Danny McGuire, Kevin Sinfield and others only looked good on the field because they played alongside what you call mediocre. These four players in their prompt would fit right into your beloved NRL.'"
A fully fit Cunningham may have been good enough, but we'll never know. He was fairly ordinary in a GB shirt against the Aussies and Kiwis though. As for the other three, stop being silly. Save the bizarre slapstick routine for where it's more appropriate
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| I can't believe no one has mentioned Ian Kirke yet.
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| Quote: Wheels "I can't believe no one has mentioned Ian Kirke yet.'"
Perhaps they are unsure if he has made the required number of appearances to be considered. Well he has - 108.
Watch the floodgates open now.
Quote: Wheels "100 appearances ?'"
Of those:
Andrew Ettingshausen - 41
Marcus Bai - 63
Cliff Lyons - 53
Marc Glanville - 52
The rest are OK.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Leeds may well have been at their most successful in recent years, but it's a celebration of the ordinary overcoming the very ordinary and the absolute rubbish along the way.
My view is that playing standards have nosedived blah blah blah blah................'"
Predictable much?
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| Quote: G1 "
Case Closed.
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "
This is a great thread ,hope its not spoiled by trolls'"
What he said, but too much to ask.
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| very suspicious methods
probably the only guy to have seen all the relevnt players gives you five names,
you get to vote on them
the number of names is reduced (to five names?)
then someone else can decide which of the names left goes on the team sheet
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