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33791.jpg [b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
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| Quote: tvoc "It can't be an easy task for the RFL to fulfil that criteria especially as Piers Morgan spends so much time in the US of A these days.'"
No, he is joined by Blackpool North Pier and the Central Pier but the South Pier decided it it no longer wanted the job, so disappointingly Llandudno Pier got the gig!
Ok, it peers, I know really!
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| You simply can't hide your shared obsession with all things X-Factorish. Don't try and fight it, embrace it.
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33791.jpg [b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
IA mode off. [/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg |
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| Quote: tvoc "You simply can't hide your shared obsession with all things X-Factorish. Don't try and fight it, embrace it.
Is the X-Factor back on TV again... I hadn't noticed!
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| I personally think too many bans are overturned on appeal. The root of this is probably consistency amongst the panel members
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| Quote: wakeytillidie "Another example of RFL favouritism towards the Whinos'"
Yep and wait till you lot get kicked out of SL because GH does'nt want his players or fans attending your tax evading flea-pit again!
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "It did so happen that two (of the three) people who had strong Wigan connections were on the disciplinary panel, this is not RFL bias or conspiracy but just simply how it worked out on the rota!'"
Odemwhingie & King Warrior? Seems likely, given the decision.
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40515_1330766741.jpg Don't worry about avoiding temptation.
As you grow older, it will avoid you!
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Hang on a minute... so your alternative is always to have the same people on the panel and no right of appeal??? There are guidelines (very good ones) but like the whole of the UK justices system it is down to a jury of piers to decide... in this case 3 people on the disciplinary panel, three on the appeals panel. They draw up rota's in advance which rotate all the members around both panels, so that one person can never dominate or they can form cliques with each other, meaning varied and balanced opinions and judgements!
He is still guilty, they (the appeals panel) just think he does not deserve a one match suspension for gods sake.
If this system is not fair what is your alternative?
Get a grip everyone, one panel had a slightly different view from the other and Leeds asked them to look at specific angle that the disciplinary may not have seen, but Leeds showed as it supported the argument for not suspending him... that means the system worked...
Get a grip!'"
Quite right. It is the same basis as our justice system. You have the right of appeal if you believe there has been a miscarriage of justice and you can provide further evidence/argument to support an appeal. It is logical and fair for any appeal judges to be different to the original as they can be more objective.
So in this case they would appear to have taken into consideration (with new video evidence) the fact that what was a normal but tough tackle became a potentially dangerous tackle because the 2nd tackler (Kylie I think) fell off the tackle which caused the collision with the ground to be at a more dangerous angle. They would appear to have ruled that this was not deliberate but accidental. They may also have taken into consideration Buderus's long and good disciplinary record. Buderus was still penalised with a fine and Leeds lost 2 points in the match. Good decision and proof the appeal system works.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Quite right. It is the same basis as our justice system. You have the right of appeal if you believe there has been a miscarriage of justice and you can provide further evidence/argument to support an appeal. It is logical and fair for any appeal judges to be different to the original as they can be more objective.
So in this case they would appear to have taken into consideration (with new video evidence) the fact that what was a normal but tough tackle became a potentially dangerous tackle because the 2nd tackler (Kylie I think) fell off the tackle which caused the collision with the ground to be at a more dangerous angle. They would appear to have ruled that this was not deliberate but accidental. They may also have taken into consideration Buderus's long and good disciplinary record. Buderus was still penalised with a fine and Leeds lost 2 points in the match. Good decision and proof the appeal system works.'"
I agree but why should it take an appeal to reach this conclusion. The correct decision should be made first time around. If a ban being overturned was a one off occurance then, OK, I wouldn't have an issue with it but when bans get overturned week in week out, it makes a joke of the original process and obviously highlights some major flaws in it.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tvoc "You simply can't hide your shared obsession with all things X-Factorish. Don't try and fight it, embrace it.
I embraced it fully lasty year after being one of it's most vicious critics and I love it now.
I even sometimes get grit in my eye when they do the sob story contestants.
Anyway, back OT, Buderus succesful? Not yet he hasn't been.
As you were.
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| Quote: G1 "I embraced it fully lasty year after being one of it's most vicious critics and I love it now.
I even sometimes get grit in my eye when they do the sob story contestants.'"
You're setting me up, right. I get it. I weren't born yesterday you know.
It remains the biggest pile of insincere, contrived crap on TV but still preferable to some Z list dancing competition.
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| Quote: G1 "I embraced it fully lasty year after being one of it's most vicious critics and I love it now.
I even sometimes get grit in my eye when they do the sob story contestants.
Anyway, back OT, Buderus succesful? Not yet he hasn't been.
As you were.'"
I was going to make that joke, but it doesn't fit my agenda
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: leicester_rhino "I was going to make that joke, but it doesn't fit my agenda'"
You should change your agenda. It's not hard to do.
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| Quote: G1 "Anyway, back OT, Buderus succesful? Not yet he hasn't been.
As you were.'"
Alright, finally that one made me chuckle
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tvoc "
It remains the biggest pile of insincere, contrived crap on TV but still preferable to some Z list dancing competition.'" I don't mind being exploited. The girls in the Purple Door will tell you that.
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| Quote: wakeytillidie "Another example of RFL favouritism towards the Whinos'"
Its really fantastic isn't it? I love how we get away with it all. I'm having a pint after work and will salute the RFL. They had me on tenterhooks but I knew they've rescind it.
You know what though, I cant wait to get home and put on my RFL sponsored Leeds Rhinos pyjamas
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