You are a disgrace.

You are a disgrace.

You're a disgrace.

Ooooh the wit.

I think this is the table Judderman is alluding tohttp://www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id, where as of the 4 Aug 2010 we are second bottom, a massive one point behind the squeaky clean Wigan.

I guess the other difference in the two incidents has also passed you by. In the Leeds v Wigan match the Wigan players took the law into their own hands with Joel Tomkins and others launching themselves at Ablett (which went unpunished). I didn't see any Leeds players starting a mass brawl with the Cas players on Friday after the tackle on Burgess... Being such a dirty team you'd expect Leeds to want a scrap for any reason wouldn't you

Also, a point Judderman may have missed during his anti-Leeds rant is:
Misconduct Pens:
1. Quins - 22
2. Bradford -33
3. Huddersfield - 33
4. Warrington - 33
5. Castleford - 36
6. Wigan - 36
7. Wakefield - 38
8. Crusaders - 40
9. Leeds - 40
10. St Helens - 43
11. Salford - 44
12. Hull FC - 46
13. Catalans - 48
14. Hull KR - 48

Leeds are hardly the team of "thugs" that is being made out if 5 teams commit more misconduct penalties than Leeds. Plus there is a whole 4 penalty difference between Leeds & Cas, obviously those 4 penalties were so reprehensible that they make Leeds scum compared to the Arsenal of RL that Cas is.

The only club that could possibly describe themselves as "clean" are Quins. Top of fair play index, good youth development, sounds like Quins are playing the game the way its supposed to be. Maybe Cas should take a leaf out of Quins book, they might stay in SL that way.

My only issue with this one - and others - is that when the player is actually not moving and lying prone on the deck, is there any need for the player who made the tackle to dance and wave his arms like a deluded numnut? I hate to see this - no matter who the player or team is - as most players will get up but when they dont - like Chris Sanderson and Mick Shoebottom - it isnt a laughing matter. The way Walker reacted was as if Cas had just stopped Leeds in their own half and they were winning!

With regards to the fair play league, that is a load of mish mash. Scruton made a spear takle, he got sent off and banned from the next couple of games. Andy Coley did one against Buderus this season, put on report and just a one game ban. Also the previous month, Sam Tomkins did a spear tackle, not on report, nothing said so unless the disciplinary system is fair to all teams then the fair play league doesnt hold any credability. I agree totally with Brian McDermott who expressed himself vocally following Paul Sykes let off for the dangerous throw - it only carries either a one or two match ban. Ablett got three matches, when at worst, Tomkins would have had either a fat lip, broken nose or a black eye. As for Buderus following the throw by Coley - possibility of a wheelchair for life. RFL need to get this one sorted!

And the reaction of the southstanders when price and eastmond were injured ??????????

Steve, Gary or Ray?

If you bothered to read the text in the link provided by McLaren you would have noticed that prior to the Wigan game Leeds were 8th.

The maximum penalty handed down to Ablett causing their dramatic slide. One incident, one debateable incident, that's it. Surely you've got more evidence than that?

Is it just me or has 2010 become the year of the moaning pussy girly rugby fans?