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| A lot of players kick-out in the tackle – it is a tactic used to emphasise and exaggerate, even give the illusion that they are being held down and they are struggling to get upright.
I really don’t think it was Keefs intention was to cause injury but he made contact and was panelised (rightly so) but I really believe there as no malice intended and that no further action was needed.
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| The most blatant offender when it comes to kicking out after the tackle is that petulant little chap Sam Tomkins, so there was a smile on my face when he was well and truly scragged by Jamie at the end, and an even bigger one with the resultant try.
The early doors smack around the head was probably deserved as well!
One of the highlights of the day for me was the look on the faces of Noble and that annoying Welsh muppet Davies. The pair of them couldn't tip their Granny off the sofa! Feckwits the pair of them! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote: BillyRhino "The most blatant offender when it comes to kicking out after the tackle is that petulant little chap Sam Tomkins, so there was a smile on my face when he was well and truly scragged by Jamie at the end, and an even bigger one with the resultant try.
The early doors smack around the head was probably deserved as well!
There is kicking out and kicking out. What Senior did today does not happen every week by Tomkins or anyone, if it did we would not be talking about it.
Senior put his feet in a dangerous position, the call was right and it was dealt with in the right manor.
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| thought leeds were fortunate today with the referee. joel tomkins gets eight stitches, a penalty, peacock takes sam tomkins head off and has a second swing with his right arm, penalty, farrell charges a kick and whilst in mid air hits mcguire sinbin. leeds got the rub of the green off the ref. hope you lift the trophy but wigan deserved it today and were the better team, totally dominent in the second half.
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| Quote: lothlorian "thought leeds were fortunate today with the referee. joel tomkins gets eight stitches, a penalty, peacock takes sam tomkins head off and has a second swing with his right arm, penalty, farrell charges a kick and whilst in mid air hits mcguire sinbin. leeds got the rub of the green off the ref. hope you lift the trophy but wigan deserved it today and were the better team, totally dominent in the second half.'"
Wigan weren't totally dominent in the 2nd half. 39 minutes maybe, but not the minute that counted ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: lothlorian "thought leeds were fortunate today with the referee. joel tomkins gets eight stitches, a penalty, peacock takes sam tomkins head off and has a second swing with his right arm, penalty, farrell charges a kick and whilst in mid air hits mcguire sinbin. leeds got the rub of the green off the ref. hope you lift the trophy but wigan deserved it today and were the better team, totally dominent in the second half.'"
Yes, we have been very fortunate in the last three Grand Finals.
We were very fortunate against Warrington. And also against Bradford. And exceptionally fortunate today against Wigan.
You know, the more games we play the more fortunate we become!
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| Quote: jonh " If you start penalising players who go in legally and wholeheartedly on kick pressure than Peacock is penalised for going in full pelt at Tomkins at the end and Leeds do not get the field position for the winning play.'"
With the rule that is currently in place that is the risk you take when charging down. JP had to make sure Tomkins still had the ball, you run the risk. What actually is classed as late?
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| How can a player get a warning from the referee and still persist at offending at the play of the ball and not get ten minutes?
Coley should have walked - Mounis did and got a one match ban too!
Senior could not have seen Tomkins when he was swinging his leg - too many players were holding him down.
What about when Ablett lost the ball, it went backwards and BENTham gave scrum down head and feed to the piemunchers?
The referee was terrible and in my opinion ruined what should have been a decent game. Well done to Peacock for doing what most of rugby league has wanted - smack Sam Tomkins! Tomkins also got up a bit gingerly when Hall hit into him when Hall was returning the ball.
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| Quote: lothlorian "thought leeds were fortunate today with the referee. joel tomkins gets eight stitches, a penalty, peacock takes sam tomkins head off and has a second swing with his right arm, penalty, farrell charges a kick and whilst in mid air hits mcguire sinbin. leeds got the rub of the green off the ref. hope you lift the trophy but wigan deserved it today and were the better team, totally dominent in the second half.'"
If Wigan we're totally dominant in the 2nd half why didn't they score enough points to win the game?
Fact is they couldn't get past the Leeds defence. For that you could say Leeds deserved to win the game from their defensive effort....
If you knew anything about the game you would have noticed Peacocks 'high' tackle was just a grab - In my opinion, John Kears' opinion and Jonathan Davies' opinion.
As for the Senior kicking out in that tackle take your mind back to this years WCC (if you watched it) a Melbourne player kicked out in the tackle and injured Sinfields leg. Sinfield missed 55 mins of a World Club Challenge. He then missed 3 games after that. Leeds didn't even get a penalty for FFS. Compaired to our misfortune Wigan we're very lucky.
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| Coley's challenge was far worse than Peacock's. Delaney is lucky he isn't very injured. The ref gave neither a team an advantage, some jelous supporters need to get over it.
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| It would be interesting to get all the spear tackles together and compare the sendings off and the no action taken ones. I am at a loss as to what now constitues a dangerous throw. Poor old Mounis - had he played for Weeeeeeeeeeegan he would not have been either sent off OR had a match ban.
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "With the rule that is currently in place that is the risk you take when charging down. JP had to make sure Tomkins still had the ball, you run the risk. What actually is classed as late?'"
When Farrell committed to the tackle McGuire still had the ball, hence it was not a penalty,
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| Quote: Chorley Rhino "It would be interesting to get all the spear tackles together and compare the sendings off and the no action taken ones. I am at a loss as to what now constitues a dangerous throw. Poor old Mounis - had he played for Weeeeeeeeeeegan he would not have been either sent off OR had a match ban.'"
True. For me it was worse than the Mounis one. Delaney didn't land well at all.
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "If Wigan we're totally dominant in the 2nd half why didn't they score enough points to win the game?
Fact is they couldn't get past the Leeds defence. For that you could say Leeds deserved to win the game from their defensive effort....
the first one was grab but he followed through with his right arm in a try scoring situation. ten minutes at least. and oh dear sinfield got kicked in the leg, joel was kicked in the face which required 8 stitches. but farrell colliding with mcguire in mid air required ten minutes. john kear was a disgrace today with his commentry. nothing to do with him not getting the job when gregory left. the fact he said its like watching paint dry after we d wakefield. hes a joke. the decision when sam got held up after it clearly came off smith to give leedss the ball was a disgrace. they checked the grounding and then pulled it back for a wigan touch. i really hop you win it as i have no ill feeling towards the leeds players buy you really got away with it today
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| We've been here before with leeds, but in the 08 challenge cup final and also i remember chris ashton being purposly stamped on by lee smith in 06, never sighted, never even given a mention. I defiantley remember it happening though.
If you say senior was accidental, then surely coley's was accidental? and no further action should be taken?
At the end of the day, accidental or not, its still very dangerous play. A kick to the head while a player is stood up, or nearly. Is more serious than coleys average spear tackle.
Jamie Peacock, just had a lazy arm, it wasnt stiff. penalty sufficient imo.
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