I was at a Halifax game where they had a crossbar challenge, but you had to hit it twice in three attempts from forty yards. The bloke hit it with the first one, but missed with the rest.

Thanks for that.

They have a crossbar challenge in football (on Soccer AM) and all you win is a bloody t-shirt. And even then, it's not a supporter who has the chance to hit the bar.

Agree with all of that.

LS16 -Mate, you are in the minority here and I agree with everything everyone is saying.

We do have to remember some things about our game and these are the things that the RFU and IRB are most worried about. Our game is the better spectator game and is more consistent in the delivery of its product to that audience especially at club level. RU is a little more accessible as a game and can be played at an amateur level by a broad a range of abilities shapes and sizes and is in many cases the only choice at school. Also RU is complicated when it comes to rules and even people at a high level in the game don't know all of the rules. RL is easier to learn and play but gets tougher to play as kids get older unless you are, in general, large and quick!

We also have to remember that up until just maybe 4 or 5 years ago the top flight of club RU was attracting less people to watch than SL and RL was the countries second biggest weekly spectator sport after Soccer. Even now it is not by much the the Zurich Premiership beats SL in terms of average seasons crowds and we do this based on far less national media coverage and limited areas in which the game is played.

The biggest issue we do face is that until 15 years ago we did face almost institutional prejudice and persecution. However, that has gone now and it is going to take a long time to shake that off and also convince a London centric media we are worth talking about.

I have no doubt we will get there and also that if the RU is to continue to develop as it has in the last 15 years, then the game needs to become a better spectacle at club level. The Aussie RU know this and that is why they want the rules changing. I do believe that we will end up with one game again and it might take another 100 years but I also know they will be playing a game nearer to RL and not the game we RU now... so do the RFU!

Any time.

This one time, at band camp......

I wonder if this will happen when I go to the Leeds Carnegie game on Sunday