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Quote: Andy Gilder "Or possibly, to use your agricultural analogy, the crop has not been as bumper as it was during the years you mentioned and has to be supplemented by buying in from elsewhere.'"


I dunno maybe the local crop hasn't been as bumper because cash for fertiliser was spent on buying crops from overseas instead.

And too many food miles is bad for the environment.

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Leeds panicked IMO due to increased bleating by our fekkwitt majority (most on here). Watkins wasn't good enough, Gibson wasn't good enough, the club had no ambition etc etc. It was a weekly battle I fought with most.

It is a little disappointing but Leeds have a duty first and foremost to themselves and the Bulls are an example of how quickly a dynasty can be dismantled and the economic pressure that comes with that.

Three of our overseas players are in the threequarters where there is a dearth of English talent. In fairness to us, we've been a victim of cash rich clubs poaching our outside backs over the last three or four years losing Smith, Mark Calderwood and Chev Walker - three outside backs that have represented their country. We still have the emerging Watkins and (for now at least) Broughton and the project Coady.

I suspect Kylie will have 1 more year before Kirke and Amor take over.

The spine of our side are still the quality English lads like Diskin, Sinfield, McGuire and Burrow.

The only unnecessary overseas player is, IMO, Buderus.

Still, we're not at the level the Bulls were at during their heydey.

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Quote: G1 "Still, we're not at the level the Bulls were at during their heydey.'"


Ah, but that was because Bradford don't have the service area that Leeds do to recruit from, apparently. Least that's the excuse Bulls fans like to trot out for their reliance on imports (particularly in the back division) over recent years.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Ah, but that was because Bradford don't have the service area that Leeds do to recruit from, apparently. Least that's the excuse Bulls fans like to trot out for their reliance on imports (particularly in the back division) over recent years.'"


I'd say it's a pretty good excuse when you compare the amount of RL played in each service area.

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Quote: Bullseye "Like Matt Diskin?'"
Sorry I don't follow is this about disco and buderus? that is purley down to playing the 2 hooker thing which I'm not found of to be honest. I pretty sure when they were both fit they played. Never was one dropped.

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Quote: Bullseye "I'd say it's a pretty good excuse when you compare the amount of RL played in each service area.'"

Mcbanana has got round that one though by signing up as many as possible from our acadamy and scholarship teams!!

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Quote: sgtwilko "Sorry I don't follow is this about disco and buderus? that is purley down to playing the 2 hooker thing which I'm not found of to be honest. I pretty sure when they were both fit they played. Never was one dropped.'"


That Leeds romped to their third title in a row effectively without Buderus for most of the season shows how little they needed him.

Money better spent elsewhere on British talent? The reason I mention it is because it sticks out as such a non-Leeds type signing when you consider what the club has been built on recently.

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Quote: G1 "I suspect Kylie will have 1 more year before Kirke and Amor take over.'"


So why did Leeds extend Leuluai's deal to the end of 2011?

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Quote: tvoc "So why did Leeds extend Leuluai's deal to the end of 2011?'"
Out of the goodness of their hearts.

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Quote: Bullseye "I'd say it's a pretty good excuse when you compare the amount of RL played in each service area.'"
Agreed! Especially with Bradford been so far away from Leeds, cas and wakey! it must be at least 35 mins on a good day To the lancs talent pool too?Oo sorry I forgot about fax hudds and keithley

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Quote: Bullseye "Money better spent elsewhere on British talent? The reason I mention it is because it sticks out as such a non-Leeds type signing when you consider what the club has been built on recently.'"


If you're interested the sequence of Leeds' overseas signings (and extensions) for 2010 can be seen in the final post rlhererl when this was last discussed.

The shame is the re-signing of Donald may have now cost one or more of Jones-Bishop and Broughton their chance at Leeds.

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Quote: tvoc "If you're interested the sequence of Leeds' overseas signings (and extensions) for 2010 can be seen in the final post rlhererl when this was last discussed.

The shame is the re-signing of Donald may have now cost one or more of Jones-Bishop and Broughton their chance at Leeds.



That's a peculiar way to run the Champion club, using a limited overseas trained quota spot like that.'"


You are of course spot on tvoc. But you wont convince the biggest hypocrite on these boards, as it does not fit the agenda.

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Quote: tvoc "If you're interested the sequence of Leeds' overseas signings (and extensions) for 2010 can be seen in the final post rlhererl when this was last discussed.

The shame is the re-signing of Donald may have now cost one or more of Jones-Bishop and Broughton their chance at Leeds.'"
The shame is really that the signing of Delaney HAS cost us Gibson and WILL cost Watkins game time.

A signing you craved.

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Quote: G1 "The shame is really that the signing of Delaney HAS cost us Gibson and WILL cost Watkins game time.

A signing you craved.'"


I would suggest that a run of injuries and failure to particularly cement a place when he had the opportunity has cost Ashley Gibson and potentially forced Leeds to recruit in that area, rather than the other way around.

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Quote: Bullseye "That Leeds romped to their third title in a row effectively without Buderus for most of the season shows how little they needed him.

Money better spent elsewhere on British talent? The reason I mention it is because it sticks out as such a non-Leeds type signing when you consider what the club has been built on recently.'"
Now this us just my opinion, burderus was our best player last season, the freak leg brake put an end to that but he was awesome. he is truley world class still!

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