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| Quote: tvoc "Just thinking of our current internationals (off the top of my head) and whether their contracts were up this year or not.
I almost through Diskin in there too but he isn't a current International although deserves to be.'"
He was when his contract was signed, wasn't he?
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| Could do with that current contract thread being brought up!
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| Quote: DISA "He was when his contract was signed, wasn't he?'"
Signed his current contract March 2006. I don't think he'd played Internationally since he did his knee at the KC Stadium at the end of 2004 playing for GB (on debut?). He was an International but not a current one not least because of his injury.
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| To Kylie & Lee
Please fell free to hold out for as much as you can, and if you have to leave, then I'm sure your career will improve.
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Chev Walker, Mark Calderwood, Chris Feather, Nick Scruton etc
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| Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "Could do with that current contract thread being brought up!'"
rlHere you gorl
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| i think we should probably let Kylie go, or at most keep him on a years contract
he is getting on, and as good as he is, its a pretty poor effort if we cant get someone as good from GB,
also there are plenty of similar players knocking around the NRL who will probably be a bit cheaper
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| Quote: tvoc "Smith is now a current full International and will be deserving of moving up a bracket or several from his previous contract signed June 2005, almost four years ago.
Without knowing all the grades within the much alluded to unbreakable pay structure wouldn't Smith be looking at around the mark attained by the other current Internationals? and perhaps there is only room for so many of those within the squad at Leeds with the likes of Sinfield, McGuire, Burrow, Peacock and JJB sorted and Smith, Senior yet to commit.'" A Very salient point.
We may have to accept that we will become victims of our own success and have to lose certain players. After all, its' not like we're Saints, Wigan, Bradford or Hull. We believe in, and stick to, the salary cap.
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| Quote: tvoc "rlHere you gorl'"
Cheers, 8 players out of contract at the end of the season
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| Quote: Longun "To Kylie & Lee
Please fell free to hold out for as much as you can, and if you have to leave, then I'm sure your career will improve.
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Chev Walker, Mark Calderwood, Chris Feather, Nick Scruton etc'"
I'm sorry, and this is not aimed at you, but there is a difference between pure greed and a player getting what he is worth.
Too many times we trot these same lines out about ex players going for money.
Oo the ones above from what it appears, only Chev Walker went for money far over and above what he was worth, which is what you will get from Union. Scruton also went for more money, but the difference to what he was offered from Leeds was quite significant, and by all accounts the offer from Leeds was under what he was worth, but at same time the Bulls went over.
Hetherington has managed us very well in his time. But all wage structures need to be fair. If they have, then nobody can complain at him.
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| Quote: G1 "A Very salient point.'"
I have my moments, rare as they are.
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| Quote: DISA "I'm sorry, and this is not aimed at you, but there is a difference between pure greed and a player getting what he is worth.
Too many times we trot these same lines out about ex players going for money.
Oo the ones above from what it appears, only Chev Walker went for money far over and above what he was worth, which is what you will get from Union. Scruton also went for more money, but the difference to what he was offered from Leeds was quite significant, and by all accounts the offer from Leeds was under what he was worth, but at same time the Bulls went over.
Hetherington has managed us very well in his time. But all wage structures need to be fair. If they have, then nobody can complain at him.'"
Chris works for the brewer that makes the best beer, even though it only pays a quarter of what he could earn at Carlsberg.
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| Quote: DISA "I'm sorry, and this is not aimed at you, but there is a difference between pure greed and a player getting what he is worth.
Too many times we trot these same lines out about ex players going for money.
Oo the ones above from what it appears, only Chev Walker went for money far over and above what he was worth, which is what you will get from Union. Scruton also went for more money, but the difference to what he was offered from Leeds was quite significant, and by all accounts the offer from Leeds was under what he was worth, but at same time the Bulls went over.
Hetherington has managed us very well in his time. But all wage structures need to be fair. If they have, then nobody can complain at him.'"
To be fair though scruton was offered what he was worth within our structure so he did leave for the money!
Fair play to him but don't be fooled into thinking he was offered less than his worth because within our structure it doesn't match up to others.
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| Quote: G1 ". After all, its' not like we're Saints, Wigan, Bradford or Hull. We believe in, and stick to, the salary cap.'"
We were talking about this on Friday night.
Us and Sheffield Eagles are the only clubs to win trophies in the Super League era who have never broken the Salary Cap.
With Sheffield out of the Super League, that makes us the last champions of honesty.
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| A players is worth is a very different sum from club to club.
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| Quote: rhinoms "To be fair though scruton was offered what he was worth within our structure so he did leave for the money!
Fair play to him but don't be fooled into thinking he was offered less than his worth because within our structure it doesn't match up to others.'"
I know the exact figure Scruton was offered, and I know the exact figure he signed for Bradford on.
Leeds offer was much nearer his worth than the Bulls offer, but still under, and could easily have been negotiated. That said though, you can hardly blame a player for taking that difference for a short career.
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