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Well, after seeing Saints play 3 out of their 5 so far, I have no confidence in us getting a win on Friday. So I will go with Leeds by however many our defence allows! I'm just hoping that this week they actually remember how to hold on to the ball for any length of time.

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have you been that bad?
do you expect to be up there come october or is the squad to thin?

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Quote: SaintsFan "Well, after seeing Saints play 3 out of their 5 so far, I have no confidence in us getting a win on Friday. So I will go with Leeds by however many our defence allows! I'm just hoping that this week they actually remember how to hold on to the ball for any length of time.'"



ye of little faith, saints will be up for this one trust me. its gonna be close!!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I bet you did.
Leeds scored NO legitimate tries last Friday and Wigan were the much better side weren't they? icon_smile.gif

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Quote: tad rhino "have you been that bad?
do you expect to be up there come october or is the squad to thin?'"
We haven't been fantastic thats for sure, but its early days in the season and we are never at our best by this stage.

Friday will be a big test of what we are capable of, but I still think come the end of the season we will be up there.

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Quote: G1 "You been round picking the teddies up from the floor yet after your little tantrum on the Saints forum.

Leeds scored NO legitimate tries last Friday and Wigan were the much better side weren't they?
I never said that now did I.

But there were some serious questions to be asked. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I never said that now did I.

But there were some serious questions to be asked.
Do you mean questions like “why was Ainscough’s try given when the pass from wee Tommy Leuluai was clearly a yard and a half forward?”

I’ve watched this back several times, I suggest you do too before replying

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I never said that now did I.

But there were some serious questions to be asked. How Hock didn't end up in the bin for punching sinfield in a tackle??
How all the wigan fans saw hock have the ball stripped at least twice but missed it when it happened to peacock??
How smith missed all the facials and markers not square??
How when the rules are clear you still can't accept that hocks try was rightly disallowed??
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Quote: tad rhino "have you been that bad?
do you expect to be up there come october or is the squad to thin?'"

Compared to our pre-Grand Final performance - absolutely. We're like a team that doesn't know what to do next. However, I could be made to look like a total hysteric on Friday night if they all suddenly gel and discover what to do now the PTB has slowed down! But if they play on Friday like they have been playing so far, you will tear us to shreds (assuming you can get past our defence which, on the whole, is still standing from last season).

I have really no idea whether we will be 'up there' come October. This time last year when we were also somewhat dodgy because I knew the coach and knew the players I was confident, even when we lost to you at about the same time last year, that we would get our act together as the season passed. But things have changed now and so I just don't know.

I've got my ticket though and I will sneak some hard stuff into my flask of warming coffee (it's due to be chilly apparently but dry). That way, I might make it through the trauma of being tonked at home by Leeds! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: SaintsFan "Compared to our pre-Grand Final performance - absolutely. We're like a team that doesn't know what to do next. However, I could be made to look like a total hysteric on Friday night if they all suddenly gel and discover what to do now the PTB has slowed down! But if they play on Friday like they have been playing so far, you will tear us to shreds (assuming you can get past our defence which, on the whole, is still standing from last season).

I have really no idea whether we will be 'up there' come October. This time last year when we were also somewhat dodgy because I knew the coach and knew the players I was confident, even when we lost to you at about the same time last year, that we would get our act together as the season passed. But things have changed now and so I just don't know.

I've got my ticket though and I will sneak some hard stuff into my flask of warming coffee (it's due to be chilly apparently but dry). That way, I might make it through the trauma of being tonked at home by Leeds!
Give over.

Saints should be 5 from 5 and only are not due to a shocking refereeing performance from Smith in the second half, despite not playing particularly coherently this season. This doesn't smack of a side who 'don't know what to do next and cant gel due to a slow PTB'.

Saints defence is still strong and if we sort out our ball retention, Friday will be a ding dong. FWIW I favour Leeds due to them looking better right now but Saints aren't that bad.

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Meli has gained his Visa and could be in the squad for Saints against Leeds.

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Quote: Kallum Watkins' Left Boot "Meli has gained his Visa and could be in the squad for Saints against Leeds.'"


We're doomed, doomed I tell you.

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Quote: Oldham Rhino "Referee: Phil Bentham


Phil Bentham has never controlled a St Helens V Leeds SL Regular Rd fixture so has no form for this fixture.

Bentham with St Helens : SL Reg Rd only

Pl 17, Won 13, Drawn 0, Lost 4

Bentham with Leeds : SL Reg Rd only

Pl 14, Won 9, Drawn 1, Lost 4

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Quote: tvoc "Bentham with Leeds

Four defeats from 14 - higher than the club's win/loss ratio over the time he's been in SL?

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