Ackers and Croft were probably the pick of our players and Frawley arguably the worst, but the problem is we are collectively poor. If the team is playing well they can carry an individual having an off day. We have had too many players underperforming too often under Smith.

I do like Ackers, he has the odd penalty in him but he tackles hard and his distribution is very good.

I don’t know, maybe Saints are a bit of a bogey side for us at the moment but we went backwards from last week despite having two first graders back.

‘Bogey side’ would suggest we are a good team, and just struggle against this one team, who we’d expect to beat at home. Not the case at all.

Pretty disastrous start to his Leeds career for Mom.. could be injured again. He doesn’t look to have settled yet and looks unfit

Pathetic performance

Mom and Frawley terrible yet again, to be fair, not the only ones

Saints two weeks running was always going to be hard games.
As last year,the manner of the defeats c/ performances is frustrating.

The bench stuff in both is stupid.

Momirovski on the wing was daft. I've never liked moving multiple players to sort one position. Don't rate Roberts? Fine. Pick someone else there.

But our problems start with our pack. Even our biggest players just aren't physical enough, and none of them make yards when the going is tough. We knew this last year and it looks like more of the same. Ruan has potential and a bit of oomph and would have been better than picking more microscopic forwards.
I've bit my tongue on Frawley, but he really does look as poor as I feared when we signed him.

And yet it'll (probably) get the paper over cracks treatment if we beat a few of the so called weaker teams until we got trounced by Wigan / Saints again in the league....

We should still be a top six side this year, but on this evidence we are 3/4 players off the top sides.

More worrying for me is that three of our new signings have problems, and Frawley has been poor both games against Saints.

It’s alright RS blaming the referees but like I said last week, the difference is that Saints just don’t make the slack errors we do.

Someone summed it up pretty well on ‘X’ last night stating that Rohan Smith is the equivalent of Jesse Marsch at Leeds United

We can argue till the cows come home about the players.
It doesn't really matter: while they're been asked to do exactly the same as last year's mob, you'd expect this year to be a carbon copy of last. Which is how it's shaping up.

Hmm they don’t look well coached do they..

We are miles off competing with the top teams based on this season so far and the last 2 weeks in particular. Yes we beat Catalan, but spent most of that game defending our line. Last week for 30 minutes we ran harder, moved up quicker and tackled harder than the opposition and looked the better team. Unfortunately that type of performance has been a rarity under Smith. That 30 minutes apart we have shown no improvement in our style of play from last season.
We may need 3/4 better players to compete with the best teams, but the players we have rarely play to the best of their ability as a team under Smith.

We were that slow around the ruck area Saints didn’t have to slow the play the ball down. We managed superbly to do that job for them. Another master class in coaching from Smith-the best returner of a ball in super league is Welsby. So let’s kick the ball to him, wonderful.

You’re not going to see a transformed style of play while the same coach is in charge. RS style can be very effective but errors cost us second half last week and whole game this week.

RS doesn’t coach players to drop the ball, pass it into touch or kick out on the full etc. Leeds sides have been prone to stupid errors like this for years now though.

I’m more bothered about selections/benches not working out, and the new players underperforming.