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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Sadly the bulk of the revenue comes from the regular season where punters - especially corporate want to see top class rugby for their money. As this season has shown winning the GF is no guarantee of retaining your crowd. If the crowds continue to fall then you will struggle to fund a team capable of winning the GF.'"
How low do you think the crowds need to be for the club not to be able to afford a salary cap level squad?
As a some time sporting corporate, BTW, the idea of "top class rugby" or whichever sport is pretty much irrelevant. The profile of the team means far more, and that comes from trophies.
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "McDermott has entered 4 comps during his time as coach and reached 4 finals. Yet there are fans calling for his head on a weekly basis.'"
He's entered 6 comps, reached 4 finals and finished 5th twice
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| Quote: deginner "He's entered 6 comps, reached 4 finals and finished 5th twice'"
If Lewis Hamilton starts the Grand Prix from fifth on the grid and goes on to win, do you remember the qualifying or the finish?
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| Quote: Richie "If Lewis Hamilton starts the Grand Prix from fifth on the grid and goes on to win, do you remember the qualifying or the finish?'"
..........well played Richie, well played, Although GP qualifying isn't really a competition, it's qualification only, where as super league regular rounds are (well at least meant to be) a full competition that includes qualification for the play offs.
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| Quote: Richie "
As a some time sporting corporate, BTW, the idea of "top class rugby" or whichever sport is pretty much irrelevant. The profile of the team means far more, and that comes from trophies.'"
Yep. The profile of the team and as long as the corporates "have a good time" in decent facilities top class rugby is irrelevant.
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| Quote: deginner "He's entered 6 comps, reached 4 finals and finished 5th twice'"
WCC? There are four "cups" available
Quote: deginner "How low do you think the crowds need to be for the club not to be able to afford a salary cap level squad?'"
Well Leeds made both finals last year and despite not spending the whole cap only made a small profit, did regular season attendances fall? how about this year?
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| Quote: Hopie "Well Leeds made both finals last year and despite not spending the whole cap only made a small profit, did regular season attendances fall? how about this year?'"
Don't read too much into a single year's accounts, particularly for business that doesn't carry a prime aim of making a profit.
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| Quote: Him "Yep. The profile of the team and as long as the corporates "have a good time" in decent facilities top class rugby is irrelevant.'"
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| Quote: Hopie "WCC? There are four "cups" available
Well Leeds made both finals last year and despite not spending the whole cap only made a small profit, did regular season attendances fall? how about this year?'"
How small was that profit?
How many other RL Clubs recorded a profit, small or large? For that matter, how many other sporting clubs?
Leeds recorded the biggest turnover in the league last year.
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| Quote: G1 "Quote: G1 "WCC? There are four "cups" available
Well Leeds made both finals last year and despite not spending the whole cap only made a small profit, did regular season attendances fall? how about this year?'"
How small was that profit?
How many other RL Clubs recorded a profit, small or large? For that matter, how many other sporting clubs?
Leeds recorded the biggest turnover in the league last year.'"
About half a million wasnt it
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| Quote: The Eagle "About half a million wasnt it'"
I think so. I wouldn't call that small.
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| Quote: Richie "How low do you think the crowds need to be for the club not to be able to afford a salary cap level squad?
As a some time sporting corporate, BTW, the idea of "top class rugby" or whichever sport is pretty much irrelevant. The profile of the team means far more, and that comes from trophies.'"
How much corporate do you spend on SL level rugby? This is Yorkshire we are talking about they want value for money - corporate was down last year and it will be further down this year - no business can see revenue fall and keep expenditure at the same level and have a long term future.
The integrity of the comp and particularly the play offs is not helped when a team only needs to turn and play 4/5 times a year and win it. Many on here are saying this is the poorest season since SL started and they will not be renewing their season ticket - this should be a worry for the club. Hetherington was so worried about this year's ST sales that he personally was ringing people up to persuade them to renew.
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| Quote: G1 "I think so. I wouldn't call that small.'"
In what context - sporting clubs or regular business?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "In what context - sporting clubs or regular business?'"
As the context is sporting clubs then sporting clubs.
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| Quote: G1 "As the context is sporting clubs then sporting clubs.'"
So you would accept this is a marginal business and it would not take much to turn the small profit into an equally small loss?
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