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Quote: Omar Little "I know all fans are biased but wigan fans with this and the whole McGuire and Ablett storms last year really do take it to an extreme.

What is so hard to understand...Lima drove his shoulder into an already held players legs, he makes no attempt whatsoever to make a tackle with his arms (as shown in that freeze frame he's dropped his tackling arm to drive in with the shoulder) - there is only one outcome if his technique (I shan't call it a tackle) had come off and that is a very very serious knee or leg injury.

As someone said on the VT, Lima could really have done pretty much anything else and it would have resulted in a completed dominant tackle without a penalty

It doesn't matter if Clarkson's leg is standing or if the first contact is above the knee - the intent was to cause injury and there is no need for that in the game. It was an absolutely cowardly attack.

I'd also add that I do martial arts and it's a well known fact that driving downwards into somebody's leg (in that context with a kick but here with a shoulder) tends to pin the foot to the ground - the leg then has to buckle and most likely its serious damage - it was only lucky that clarksons leg lifted slightly before the impact (through sheer chance)'"


Thats the point he wasnt held he was still making yards up the pitch!!

So was the leg on the ground or in the air??

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Lima should be called up. It was a disgraceful tackle and the ref judged it bad enough to be sin binned.

Carmont isnt a dirty player and I think that one was accidental. It looked pretty bad but I think he will get away with that.

"Super" Sam tries to get involved in every little scuffle there is. Its just a shame Cross didnt break Tomkins fecking skull. It wont be long before he gets what he deserves the scummy little st

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Quote: Mark_Thompson ""Super" Sam tries to get involved in every little scuffle there is. Its just a shame Cross didnt break Tomkins fecking skull. It wont be long before he gets what he deserves the scummy little st'"


Grow up.

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Quote: Mark_Thompson "
"Super" Sam tries to get involved in every little scuffle there is. Its just a shame Cross didnt break Tomkins fecking skull. It wont be long before he gets what he deserves the scummy little st'"


Agree with that bit. The rest, not so sure is necessary.

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Quote: Ian Roberts Closet "Thats the point he wasnt held he was still making yards up the pitch!!'"


Making inches rather than yards at the point Lima had a legitimate right to wrap his legs up.

Quote: Ian Roberts Closet "So was the leg on the ground or in the air??'"


The leg nearest Lima was in the air (fortunately), Clarkson's right leg was on the ground. The problem appears to be Lima drove in (with force) with his left shoulder rather than wrapping the legs with the arms and that was dangerous.

Just as the disciplinary recently saw intent after Joel Tomkins recent sending off against Hull it would be somewhat inconsistent now if they don't also see intent from Lima in that incident from Friday.

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Quote: G1 "If you are in any doubt about Lima's intentions and if you are in any doubt as to whether that is the way MaGuire coaches his teams just watch WIgan's warm ups. They were practising the thing on each other.'"


Were obviously going out to injure players when were practising it on eachother a046.gif

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Quote: tvoc "Grow up.'"


Going out of his way to deliberatley try to stir things up and trying to cheat his way through games. Is that 3 weeks on the trot where someone has tried to shut him up?

I think just about every other player in Super League would like to give him the slap that he deserves. He does not respect other players playing the game and people will take exception. Ask Ben Westwood or Ben Cross.

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Quote: Mark_Thompson "Lima should be called up. It was a disgraceful tackle and the ref judged it bad enough to be sin binned.

Carmont isnt a dirty player and I think that one was accidental. It looked pretty bad but I think he will get away with that.

"Super" Sam tries to get involved in every little scuffle there is. Its just a shame Cross didnt break Tomkins fecking skull. It wont be long before he gets what he deserves the scummy little st'"


No he didnt! He only blows his whistle once the leeds players run in! He then obviously gets a word in his ear and then pretends to get ocnfirmation off his linesman who also hadnt flagged for the incident and only came on the pitch due to the players running in!!

If Carmonts was accidental how will he be "getting away with it!!"
But it was prob as accidental as a Senior boot in the head!!

I would have loved Cross to have got hold of Sam! Would have been good to see him pick on a full back!

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Quote: Ian Roberts Closet "He then obviously gets a word in his ear and then pretends to get ocnfirmation off his linesman'"


icon_lol.gif You couldn't make this stuff up!!

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What's that coming over the hill.......:



Are there no opticians in Leeds??

What about the dirty tactics of Bailey??

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Coach Maguire's comment here explain the Lima tackle, apparently it was all Clarkson's fault for not falling correctly:
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16316.php
Coach Maguire's comment here explain the Lima tackle, apparently it was all Clarkson's fault for not falling correctly:
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16316.php


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Only Jeff Lima knows what his intent was. In my opinion (and its only an opinion !) he went in with the shoulder to cause injury. If he was trying to stop a leg drive, why didn't he use his arms to wrap up the legs ?

Its ironic the pies are bleating about opponents unfairly targetting little Sam (forgetting of course that Sean Long and Rob Burrow have had many years of this attention) whilst condoning Lima's attempt to injure a young Leeds player.

If this is a legitimate tackling technique, I assume there will no whining from the clog wearing pie munchers when they have players sidelined for 9 months needing knee reconstructions.

Its a shame Nathan Brown didn't follow through with his threat to send Keith Mason after opposition play makers icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Old Feller "Coach Maguire's comment here explain the Lima tackle, apparently it was all Clarkson's fault for not falling correctly:

What he actually claims is that he fell the wrong way. One can only assume that, had he fallen the right way, Lima would have succeeded in his aim of hospitalising him.

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Quote: Bill_Barlow "Were obviously going out to injure players when were practising it on eachother In the warm up your players were working on two defenders holding the ball carrier with a third player attacking the legs.

In the game Clarkson was held by two defenders, Lima attacked the leg, below the knee with his shoulder.

It's cheap and there's no need for it in the game. The player's reaction tells you all you need to know. Kylie (who is one of the most placid hard men in the game) went straight after Lima the next time he looked likely to get the ball (he was used as a dummy).

I'm with Nathan Brown. You may not get penalised by the RFL, you may. It may be borderline legal, it may not. But the players themselves will deal with it. You have some big hard players and some skillful backs. I don't mind niggle, I don't mind intimidation but I've no time for what Maguire coaches his teams to do. I hope the rest of the league takes Nathan Brown's advice to heart when they play you. It looked to me like we did on Friday as we were all in on a couple of occasions.

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