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| What was the background to this post shag?
Quote 'The S' by 18+ points.
IMHO of course.'"
Guffaw.
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| Quote Genial Harry Grout="Genial Harry Grout"Keeping the money yourself or donating to a worthy cause?'" I thought about giving some to the Jayne Tomlinson fund.
Does everyone around here think that is a worthy cause?
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| Some people must have been reading different posts from G1 about McClennan than me. The only point I thought he was trying to make was that some fans appeared to be playing blatant double standards when talking about Smith (boo hiss) and McClennan (hoorah) when virtually the same events were unfolding.
Anyway, I have to admit to being WRONG re Ablett in the centres, we somehow won with him there after all. Hence me not being a coach.
Well done Brian.
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| Quote G1="G1"What was the background to this post shag?
Guffaw.'"
Check out the definition of Übertroll [url=http://rlfansdictionary.tripod.comHERE[/url and you'll discover the answer Shag 
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"Some people must have been reading different posts from G1 about McClennan than me. The only point I thought he was trying to make was that some fans appeared to be playing blatant double standards when talking about Smith (boo hiss) and McClennan (hoorah) when virtually the same events were unfolding.
'" Thanks a lot. You've just restored my faith that there are a few people on here how can apply common sense and comprehension.

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| I said after the GF win in 2004 that Smith had won a heck of a lot of brownie points as coach after winning the first Championship in 30 years, and I really don't understand why he was pilloried to the ridiculous extent of suggesting that Leeds could/would have won in 2004 with Powell still in charge. And yet there has been little on here suggesting that this side is Smith's. Which it is in many ways.
I also think people pay far too much credence to gossip about players 'not liking' the coach. I'm not sure liking matters as much as respecting, and I also don't care given Smith's record. This isn't the Wigan side of the 80s where they were able to win despite the team disliking Dorahy - I don't believe for a second that this team is in any way that far superior to Sts that they could win a GF 33-6 without significant input from the coach.
Having said that McClennan was on a hiding to nothing this year - Leeds could easily have come up with nothing, so genuine credit to him also.
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| Gary Hetherington must be doing something right afterall.
Three Championships in five years (including a back to back) is unheard of territory for any sporting club from Leeds.
The only blot is Leeds' lack of recent success in the Challenge Cup.
I don't want to sound needy or ungrateful though.
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Quote Agent Provocateur="Agent Provocateur"Jeezus wept!
For a middle class w@nker, you've succeeded in redefining stupid... well done Shag :lol:
Did you read the whole of that thread that you spent hours trawling for?
Were you actually aware of the background to that thread?
No?
Thought not.
Consider yourself a member of the substandard t club... you've just passed with honours.'"
Finding the thread took about two minutes but, sadly no, I didn't read all of it, I don't have that kind of time available.
Are you saying you were just trolling? ... yes, that must be it.
Anyhow, here it is ... viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0
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Quote Agent Provocateur="Agent Provocateur"Jeezus wept!
For a middle class w@nker, you've succeeded in redefining stupid... well done Shag :lol:
Did you read the whole of that thread that you spent hours trawling for?
Were you actually aware of the background to that thread?
No?
Thought not.
Consider yourself a member of the substandard t club... you've just passed with honours.'"
Finding the thread took about two minutes but, sadly no, I didn't read all of it, I don't have that kind of time available.
Are you saying you were just trolling? ... yes, that must be it.
Anyhow, here it is ... viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0
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Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Finding the thread took about two minutes but, sadly no, I didn't read all of it, I don't have that kind of time available.
Are you saying you were just trolling? ... yes, that must be it.
Anyhow, here it is ... viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0'" No what he is saying is damn you for pointing out he's not the all knowing oracle he claims to be. You pulled his pants down and smacked his bottom hence his rather unnecessarily aggressive and personal response.
Or, in language he'd understand....you OWNED him.
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Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Finding the thread took about two minutes but, sadly no, I didn't read all of it, I don't have that kind of time available.
Are you saying you were just trolling? ... yes, that must be it.
Anyhow, here it is ... viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0'" No what he is saying is damn you for pointing out he's not the all knowing oracle he claims to be. You pulled his pants down and smacked his bottom hence his rather unnecessarily aggressive and personal response.
Or, in language he'd understand....you OWNED him.
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| Quote Terrace Casual="Terrace Casual"Gareth privately said to me that Mcclennan was getting the team playing the best rugby he had ever seen by a Leeds team. We both agreed it was too early to judge him because why should he be judged on a handful of games? why should any coach be judged on a handful of games (that goes for Dean Lance too)?
That is the point here. It doesnt matter which coach it was, Smith OR McClennan, the simple fact is that you lambasted Smith for the same things you didn't lambast McClennan. That's double standards and has been our agenda throughout.
The fact that you're scrabbling about falling over yourself in a bid to shift the focus to others only emphasizes it further.
McClennan has done fantastic job having the team peak at the right time twice in one season but that doesnt mean to say some of the performances inbetween were top drawer also. Far from it but that doesnt matter. What matters is the result come the end of the season which was our point throughout Smiths last season when yourself and a number of others bleated and moaned for Smith to go. Some of the posts were shameful and to try to twist and turn it onto others in a bid to save face is quite frankly, pathetic.'"
I have to be honest, but I never saw anybody on these boards lambasting Smith in his first year at Leeds.
Therefore I fail to see the hypocrisy. The only thing I see is two people who have dug a very big hole for themselves and are struggling to get out of it.
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| Quote DISA="DISA"The only thing I see is two people who have dug a very big hole for themselves and are struggling to get out of it.'" Yes but can we trust what you see DISA? Did you see Phil Daly this weekend?
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| Quote G1="G1"Yes but can we trust what you see DISA? Did you see Phil Daly this weekend?'"
Good luck getting out of that hole.
Unfortunately in your case you have a bigger one than Danny. You displayed your serious lack of knowledge of not only the game, but talent of players during the week.
And whilst I dont like to gloat, with regards to Lee Smith, you can kiss my hairy buttocks.
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