My original point was it was not gutless. Nothing else. However I think if you look back at the tape you will see Keinhorst make a high number of first in tackles as you say there were two other players that made more tackles but I would need to look at the missed tackles again before rushing into choosing JK for criticism. If I was looking for candidates who had earned consideration for putting in a gutless performance I would start with Watkins, McGuire and Handley who made 3 tackles and missed 4

Mcguire got away with the contact with the referee which was very surpising.

Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Mcguire Burrow
Singleton Parcell Cuthbertson
Ablett Keinhorst
Sutcliffe

Delaney Mullally Walters/Baldwinson/Ormondroyd

I am not going to disagree with you on the gutless argument, because your right I don't for one minute believe he was gutless. But nine missed tackles is inexcusable and really poor. I very much doubt you will see again all season another player of any side missing nine tackles.

After Hetherington's statement, it would appear that Leeds must win at least 2-3 of their next 4 games for Hetherington to retain his job. It is therefore in Leeds best interests to lose 50-0 to Catalans on Fri and then again to Wakefield. Hopefully by that point Hetherington will have had enough and will get rid. The sooner we can get rid of McNumb the better for Leeds and the earlier we can begin to turn the corner. It will be interesting how the players react on Friday, if they want McNumb to stay you would expect a fight or alternatively, we could see an equally embarrassing performance if they wish to assist his removal.

I don't want Leeds to lose any game.

That's not to say that I don't want change (I do) however, watching Leeds bend over and ship 50 points just to prove a point doesn't really float my boat. Infact, I'd be more miffed at the players for running up the white flag.

That forward pack must have Le Frog's Legs quivering.
If the forwards can't get on top of the opposition then we have no hope.

I dont think there is much wrong with our staring pack, swap Ward in there and it is nearly first choice, it is our bench I am worried about, we could see a big drop at the 25 30 min mark.

I would have Galloway and Ferres as starters also were they fit.

I agree, the bench sucks and it's about getting a lead and hanging on in the periods we are forced to use the bench players if we are to a have any chance of getting a result.

Agreed a quick start is vital, if we start with some high energy in attack and defence then the crowd can get into it, but if we start slow I see a dull atmosphere after last weeks result.

But I suppose if we put Galloway, Ferres, Ward etc back in our bench would look OK.

At the minute though it does look pretty weak. The only one who is really holding his own is Ormondroyd.

Burrow & Ablett back, no Ward nor JJB etc.

Golding
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
Mcguire
Burrow
Parcell
Cuthbertson
Ablett
Sutcliffe
Delaney
Singleton
Keinhorst
Mullally
Walters
Ormondroyd
Baldwinson
Lilley

Walters and Delaney to drop out if it was up to me.

Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Mcguire Burrow
Singleton Parcell Cuthbertson
Ablett Keinhorst
Sutcliffe

Delaney Ormondroyd Baldwinson Mullally

I have a horrible feeling that Greg Bird will rip us to bits.