Unless it's in a final.

None of our pack made much headway against a Warrington pack that came at us for most of the game with great line speed and from offside positions too. Whist I agree with you about Delaney's lack of fitness (his battery looked flat) I cannot see how you thought Bailey had a more decent game than the other forwards.



Burrow was by far our best player (and classy BJB played well too) and made the tries and most of the breaks from the hooker position at acting half back. Monaghan was very good but had the huge advantage of playing behind a dominant set of forwards who gave him quick play the ball. He was further helped in the 2nd half by our poor defence around the rucks where doors were opened for him that remained closed to Burrow. Whereas our forwards were dominated on the ground (assisted by a ref who allowed far too much Warrington wrestle time) with the result that Burrow, and Sinfield were getting very slow ball.

McGuire, Bailey and Delaney understandably all looked short of match fitness and I am not sure we can expect them to regain this for the Saints match

McGuire looked short of everything. Pace, fitness, ideas.

One serious injury too many IMO, time to give Sutcliffe the start in the halves

Agreed - same could be said of Sinfield

McGuire went off injured - is it even likely he'll be playing on Friday? Bringing in Sutcliffe might be useful anyway.

Bailey was as dominated as all the other forwards (JP included) but he did earn possession four times with turnovers.

Not much else positive to sat about any of the other forwards.

PS Kirke's work rate much better if ineffective this week.

Sinfield's performance was rather worrying. Where was his usual world class level of orchestration and direction of the team? I've become so used to the world's best player guiding the team around to such an expert degree of supermarionation to which Gerry and Sylvia Anderson could only ever dream about.

He needs to lift his game sharpish... not only for the Rhinos but also for England in the RLWC next month.

I wonder if any of the old guard will ever lose their place to a young player?Something has got to happen in the near future.

Obsessed. Did he bully you at school, steal your lunchbox or something?

Or is it his record as the greatest captain in history (six title wins) that eats away at you so much ?

Who gives a monkeys about england. I'm just looking forward to seeing the [ireal[/i top quality players, in the green and gold.

Right?

Last tackle plays were shocking, we were never properly organised and the responsibility for that doesn't just lie with sinfield.

The play off system is a marathon and you don't win a marathon by sprinting off at the half way mark. HTH

Well said.

It was only the week previous to this, after the win at Wigan, that all the boards were producing threads saying we were the team to beat again and Wigan were finished for the season.As we see a week is a long time in sport and things have flipped around.Thankfully we still have our chance to put things right this week with a tough test against the Saints and i am confident we will.

For all their whooping and big ups all Warrington have won so far is week off, which history tells us is not really what you want at this stage.

Yes Leeds appeared to be off the pace of the game on Saturday

but as I said before this is a 5 game series or a 400 minute Marathon for Leeds.

No point in using up all your juice at this stage.

Good thread this. From a Warrington point of view I thought that Peacock seemed to be battling the entire Wire pack at times. All credit to him for playing at all after what's happened, but I thought that McDermott kept him on for too long asnd then gave him a very short break. He earned a lot of admirers in the Warrington crowd and is my Man of Steel by a mile. Kylie looked knackered from the first minute and Delaney was obviously not fully fit. Bailey only took the ball up six times during the game and as you didn't have a lot of power on the bench that should be a worry.
The biggest danger for us was Rob Burrow. He caused problems throughout the game, but your free scoring left wing partnership was simply kept very busy by Benny Westwood.

Given that if we are to progress to the final we will have to play and beat Warrington at some stage to retain our crown...therefore do you want to reveal your full game plan in advance.

For me the big test this year will be on Friday night. Saints seem to have quietly gained some form and momentum recently.