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Sorry. My bad it wasn't supposed to be 'the list' it was 'my list.'

Was Burrow top of 'your list' for starting hooker?

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Quote: tvoc "Sorry. My bad it wasn't supposed to be 'the list' it was 'my list.'

Was Burrow top of 'your list' for starting hooker?'"

No, that would have been Liam Hood. Burrow would have been to of "my list" for starting scrum half.

But Hood was injured and I am not sure I have much more confidence in McShane than McDermott has although he was suprising me early last season with some excellent play before getting dropped.

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Quote: G1 ""the list". Who's list? He appears to have been top of Mr McDermott's list.'"


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There are no excuses for making Burrow starting hooker.....especially when you're the guy that introduced the concept of making the guy a VERY effective super sub.

There are no excuses for making our guy given the no.9 shirt sit on the bench throughtout the whole game ....whatever the unexpected injury to your starting winger.

There are no excuses for showing such favouritism to Huarakiare[/i erudite ?? icon_confused.gif

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Burrow at rake from the beginning really doesn't work for me. No matter how much he "works hard" his passing to a moving object just isnt up to scratch. He runs around to laterally at times too and the other players don't seem to have a clue what he's doing. The only place for Burrow in this team IMO is as an impact dummy half against tired defenders.

As for Hauraki, I thought he was very good last week. Tonight though, not so much. He was playing out of position though at short notice. He was just too slow and cost us good field position twice at vital times in the first half. I just hope my love child is fit next week icon_smile.gif

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The decision to continue with burrow starting is poor, the decision to start with Hauraki over clarkson (who is not an impact sub in the slightest) was baffling. But all that was small in comparison to due to smiths injury we had two backrowers at centre, but didn't switch Sinfield back to loose and allow the bigger hooker to come on, putting Burrow back to half.

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Apparently the reason McShane didn't get on was because of the injury to Smith. If that's the case, then you can only come to the conclusion that we were unable to adapt our planned substitutions around an injury to the backs. Not a good sign that we are capable to adjust to the game as it is being played. Worrying...

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As stated on another thread I am desparately hoping that BM is playing his cards very close to his chest tactically with regard to the WCC this week.

If next Saturday we have 2 league points and the WCC trophy in the bag we will all look very silly again. icon_smile.gif

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Gotcha and BR agree with both posts and imo it's baffling to see that to us mere mortals the obvious choices/selections are as stated yet Brian Mc does the complete opposite which doesn't impact the game positively nor get the best out of his resources.
I just don't see the point of having a natural 9 on the bench and A.Not using him at all B. selecting a 7 who also has good impact as a bench 9 to play the full 80 at 9.

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Quote: rhinoms "Gotcha and BR agree with both posts and imo it's baffling to see that to us mere mortals the obvious choices/selections are as stated yet Brian Mc does the complete opposite which doesn't impact the game positively nor get the best out of his resources.
I just don't see the point of having a natural 9 on the bench and A.Not using him at all B. selecting a 7 who also has good impact as a bench 9 to play the full 80 at 9.'"


McShane looked better last year the more game time he got. He's still extremely inexperienced in the first team and it was obvious last year that the more he played the more confident he looked and the more effective he became. There were times when he looked abrasive on defence, tough and was buzzing when we had the ball. I think he's the real deal and if he got a run then he would deliver the goods.

I'm sure he'll get the chance.

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I agree DHM i'm just surprised that he hasn't had a decent amount of game-time thus far.

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I'm struggling to come to terms with starting Burrow at all, let alone as hooker. He was devastating last year coming off the bench but (despite having a decent game at Wigan) doesn't seem to have the same gamebreaking impact when starting.

Having said that the Rhinos have to cope with the loss of Buderus...who's to say that Mac won't try a few options before deciding which way to go. In view of last year we should be aware that it sometimes takes a bit of time for new systems to gel.

FWIW I didn't expect a win at Wigan, whatever the line-up, but then again I never have done. Nor do I think the line-up was to blame. The team simply didn't play well in the first half, and the second-half improvement wasn't quite enough to turn the game.

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Quote: Chief Stinkwort "I'm struggling to come to terms with starting Burrow at all, let alone as hooker. He was devastating last year coming off the bench but (despite having a decent game at Wigan) doesn't seem to have the same gamebreaking impact when starting.

Having said that the Rhinos have to cope with the loss of Buderus...who's to say that Mac won't try a few options before deciding which way to go. In view of last year we should be aware that it sometimes takes a bit of time for new systems to gel.
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Those options should really have been considered during the close season and in the friendlies against Wakefield and Featherstone don't you think ?

If the club is STILL trying to find solutions for the 'loss of Buderus' why did it let him leave ?? Not very professional is it ?

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But why can't we have Sinfield at loose forward, Mcguire and Burrow at half back and Mcshane at hooker???

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Quote: nantwichexile "Those options should really have been considered during the close season and in the friendlies against Wakefield and Featherstone don't you think ?

If the club is STILL trying to find solutions for the 'loss of Buderus' why did it let him leave ?? Not very professional is it ?'"


Not sure I agree that anything much could have been learnt from those friendlies (especially the blowout against Fev).
I suspect the options have been considered, but there's often a pretty big gap between theory and practice. Two games in and I'm not too worried. If they persevere with failing systems I'll change my mind.

As for letting Buderus leave, once he'd made up his mind, I doubt if there was much the club could do to stand in his way. Newcastle talked about a 'leadership and mentoring role' so it's a good bet there's a coaching offer on the table.
At 34 years old any player would have to be an idiot to turn down the chance of beginning a coaching career alongside Wayne Bennett.

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