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Quote: tad rhino "You miss the point totally. It's not about money,it's about consistently updating the squad with fresh talent, not keeping players too long.in football terms we have done a revie, letting the bulk get old together. Much as I detest the scum ferguson is a master of keeping his team challenging while always looking to the future, being loyal but ruthless when needed. Red nosed scum bstsrd. He is'"


If you remember Wigan in the late 80s, there was rarely a player retained at Central Park over the age of about 30, regardless of who they were.

During most of those times, Leeds were then daft enough to go give them a contract for another couple of seasons. Wane, Gregory, Goodway etc. It could even be argued that Hanley was past his best when Leeds paid big money for him ...

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Quote: McLaren_Field "He probably did, every last one of them.
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Nah, Sesame Street has only got up to THREE and the letter L in Wigan ...

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Just think of it as our 'Brian Noble' era ...

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First and foremost I like rugby - League first and Union second. There was a time when I liked to play, then there was a time when I liked to coach, then I had a time in rugby management. But during all this time I have always enjoyed watching rugby skills as a form of entertainment.

Having been brought up in Headingley, naturally my league team has always been Leeds and I have been coming to Headingley since I was a boy (195icon_cool.gif win or lose.

Sport is competitive so of course I want to win every game. But realistically this is simply not possible.

Therefore many moons ago I realised that it is the performance that counts more than the winning. If my team gives of their best and provides some good rugby and tries to watch then it is good value entertainment. I can also enjoy creative play by the opposition.

There are those supporters who can only be satisfied when we are winning. I am sorry for them because they will spend their lives frustrated and will miss many good things to enjoy in a game. Over the lean years there have been some truly outstanding rugby moments from a host of talented rugby stars who have graced Headingley - many in Leeds teams that won little or no silverware.

Some of those moments have matched, in entertainment terms, any of our silverware successes.

Overall I enjoyed our performance on Friday and applaud the improvement against the Champions and IMO one of the top 2 sides this year.

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the problem for me is i haven't enjoyed many games this year. it's been bloody dull at times tbh

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Same for me Tad. there has been a lack of good performances. Indeed last years Cup and playoff results disguised a season of mainly poor performances.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I completely disagree - look back in fondness is great when you think about your kids. This is pro sport, just because the club was poorly run, underachieved - in part due to Wigan having a full time squad - in the past is no justification for what is happening now.

I bet Alex Ferguson doesn't look back and think we were crap in the 70's and the 80's but we have been pretty successful since let's accept a couple of lean years - his hunger for success will be as strong now as it was when he first started in management.

Top people drive for constant improvement - a lack of which is seen as failure.'"



You don't half make me laugh when you come out with the stuff in bold.

LEEDS were the first club to go full time. Wigan and Widnes followed their example. Still, let's not let facts get in the way of a good urban myth eh?

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



Quote: proper-shaped-balls "You don't half make me laugh when you come out with the stuff in bold.

LEEDS were the first club to go full time. Wigan and Widnes followed their example. Still, let's not let facts get in the way of a good urban myth eh?'"

lie

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Quote: proper-shaped-balls "You don't half make me laugh when you come out with the stuff in bold.

LEEDS were the first club to go full time. Wigan and Widnes followed their example. Still, let's not let facts get in the way of a good urban myth eh?'"


No, you couldn't go fully pro as that would have been breaking RL bye-laws, wouldn't it ? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Same for me Tad. there has been a lack of good performances. Indeed last years Cup and playoff results disguised a season of mainly poor performances.'"


Not a very good disguise!
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Quote: proper-shaped-balls "You don't half make me laugh when you come out with the stuff in bold.

LEEDS were the first club to go full time. Wigan and Widnes followed their example. Still, let's not let facts get in the way of a good urban myth eh?'"


Don't let the fact that this is complete bollax stop you from claiming Leeds were the first to be FTP. I was around at the time and very very clearly remember what happened. I also remember what "other" job most of the Leeds players did, such as Roy Powell being a Plasterer for example.

Shall we see if you can back up your ridiculous claim with fact?

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Quote: batleyrhino "Don't let the fact that this is complete bollax stop you from claiming Leeds were the first to be FTP. I was around at the time and very very clearly remember what happened. I also remember what "other" job most of the Leeds players did, such as Roy Powell being a Plasterer for example.


Shall we see if you can back up your ridiculous claim with fact?'"

good on yer

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course he can't. he's full of sh*t

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Quote: batleyrhino "Don't let the fact that this is complete bollax stop you from claiming Leeds were the first to be FTP. I was around at the time and very very clearly remember what happened. I also remember what "other" job most of the Leeds players did, such as Roy Powell being a Plasterer for example.

Shall we see if you can back up your ridiculous claim with fact?'"


Maurice told them, so it must be true, "Its not fair" he said, "all these other teams are full time professional, so we have to be" and they believed the Messiah and it was so.

And then they had to sell the temple to pay the wages.

To a supermarket.

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