hey what can i say i am greedy i want both!

I would imagine the coffers at headingley are more than full. when was the last time we spent big on a transfer? we get huge amount of season ticket holders every season, fair enough carnegie stand was built but a lot will surely have come from sponsorship and mr caddick's company..

How much do you think it costs to staff and run a top grade sports team and all the various levels below it?

Think how much simple things like utilities have gone up in the last 2-3 years and compare that with the percentage rise in season ticket prices.

That's before you factor in playing, coaching and administrative staff salaries, upkeep of a stadium and training facility etc.

The idea that Leeds are somehow sitting on a great pile of retained cash is a fallacy IMO.

Erm...a tenner a week? I understand Andy, but i do think we are without doubt one of the wealthier teams in the world of RL. We have a big fan base and we've had huge success of late generating excellent income. Surely we must have a bob or 2.... add to that we very rarely maximise the salary cap.

thought our total turnover was in the region of £11.5 million pa.

Naive to think other teams don't have overlays too. Teams who have less fans, less gates, better stadiums and still spend full cap.

The idea that Leeds are not one of richest teams in the league are a fallacy.

Are you forgetting that we sold the cricket ground to Yorkshire where we got an initial payment of 3.5m and are still owed 11.5m. Do you really think we could allow a company to owe us such a sum if we didn't have a huge bank account already.

As for the rebuilding of the carnegie stand, half of that was funded by Leeds Met for the classrooms. Leeds are the ritchest club in the northern hemisphere by a country mile FACT. And this is because GH is a very good businessman. If the cap was not in force we could spend a fortune. Leeds rugby have other forms of revenue other than the two rugby teams such as a percentage of cricket test match fixtures, the hotel, the headingley pavillion for weddings and other functions. There is no other club that even come close to our revenue stream, wake up man.

Indeed. Also a far higher direct cost base as well as a requirement to subsidise another club.

To be fair though the annual levy made on the Tykes to support the Rhinos is getting less and less each year.

Seriously I think its a grey area.

The Tykes are loss making hence the Carnegie pull out but they've taught the Rhinos how to milk the corporate cash cow and helped fund some of the expansion that now pulls in additional revenue. They may not make a seemingly sufficient visible contribution but I believe they have made a serious invisible contribution.

Add to which the money spent on subsidising them may never have been spent on the Rhinos - it is an opportunity cost but impossible to prove anything more.

Does typing the word FACT in uppercase make things actually true?

Yes it does. FACT...

Absolutely.

It certainly should never to be taken to mean the author hasn't the faintest idea of whether their statement has even a hint of truth to it but is so worked up in a mouth frothing diatribe they'll type the word fact in capitals after their ambiguous statement in the lamentable hope nobody will bother to check or challenge. FACT.

I think I may have seen him in the gym Saturday training with McGuire, Bailey, McShane and Webb. Are there any other chunky lads in the reserves with black hair?

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Quote: The Nihilist "I think I may have seen him in the gym Saturday training with McGuire, Bailey, McShane and Webb. Are there any other chunky lads in the reserves with black hair? Ben jones www.therhinos.co.uk/rugby/player ... ef=dynamic