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The number of players unavailable is a massive driver of our performances and results. Not only do you replace people with lower quality, but the knock on effect is that the rest of the players are out of position and under more pressure, hence more errors and penalties.

That doesn't mean than the coach isn't getting the most out of the players though

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Quote: Shabino "Also if we look at the list of CC winners since Sheffield won it. All very good teams. Is not an easy comp to win. That semi vs Wigan as as good a performance as any of the GF triumphs imo...we are moving on a, good direction.....'"


Mate, we won the CC and finished 5th last season.
This season we're out of the CC and 4th from bottom.
How exactly is that a good direction?

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Quote: Simmo71 "Mate, we won the CC and finished 5th last season.
This season we're out of the CC and 4th from bottom.
How exactly is that a good direction?'"

Mate we're busted worse than we've engr been, worse than I can remember any SL team being. But some young talent is being blooded and that is massive for next 2-3 yrs....

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Quote: Simmo71 "Mate, we won the CC and finished 5th last season.
This season we're out of the CC and 4th from bottom.
How exactly is that a good direction?'"
Other than the HKR game did anyone really give us a chance of winning those games with our injury list.The plus of having the injuries has showed we have a crop of very good younger players.Lets see how we fare when we can select our best halves and centres and forward pack.

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Quote: Simmo71 "Mate, we won the CC and finished 5th last season.
This season we're out of the CC and 4th from bottom.
How exactly is that a good direction?'"


Can i ask did you expect us to beat Cas, Saints and Wigan with the teams we had out on those days? And even Hudds away which is always tricky at the best of times for us.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Can i ask did you expect us to beat Cas, Saints and Wigan with the teams we had out on those days?'"


No.
But based on those performances I expected us to compete with HKR and Hudds - but we didn't.
Yes, there are mitigating circumstances as to why we are where we are.
But there are also mitigating circumstances as to why we won the CC last year - let's not pretend that we won it because we're a top team and all is rosy.
I agree that the future looks good with the crop of youngsters we have.
But the present looks awful.
Massive game against Wakey - lose and we could be in a relegation battle.
Win and we could gain some confidence and start to open up a gap.

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Quote: Simmo71 "No.
But based on those performances I expected us to compete with HKR and Hudds - but we didn't.
Yes, there are mitigating circumstances as to why we are where we are.
But there are also mitigating circumstances as to why we won the CC last year - let's not pretend that we won it because we're a top team and all is rosy.
I agree that the future looks good with the crop of youngsters we have.
But the present looks awful.
Massive game against Wakey - lose and we could be in a relegation battle.
Win and we could gain some confidence and start to open up a gap.'"



We didn't compete with Huddersfield?

we lost by a point on the hooter.

I would suggest we didn't compete against Hul KR precisely because the efforts in the previous weeks to compete with the likes of Cas, Wigan and Saints took it's toll.

We won the CC last year because we won the games we had to win, if it was such an easy achievement why did none of Saints, Hull, Wigan, Cas Warrington win it?

Te present looks awful because of the injury list, it might look a whole load different on a month or twos time.

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Didnt compete with Huddersfield? 14-13. Missed 3 drop goals and lost to.last kick of the game, away from home with 10 players out.

Oh my. Contender for quote of the year there Simmo. Seeya at the Awards night. Lol.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Didnt compete with Huddersfield? 14-13. Missed 3 drop goals and lost to.last kick of the game, away from home with 10 players out.

Oh my. Contender for quote of the year there Simmo. Seeya at the Awards night. Lol.'"


haha - nice one mate!
Yeh, see you at the Awards night.
You'll deffo give me a run for my money with your ridiculous comparison to Harry Kane and Jordan Pickford!! icon_lol.gif
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Quote: Simmo71 "haha - nice one mate!
Yeh, see you at the Awards night.
You'll deffo give me a run for my money with your ridiculous comparison to Harry Kane and Jordan Pickford!!
Haha thats true

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We'll get 'thur' as Sinny might say......

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Yeh we all hope so.
Just so frustrating that we have a real go with a young side against Saints and Wigan and we’re all quite optimistic.
Then we get a few bodies back but are really poor against HKR and Hudds.
Yes, Hudds was a close game, but we were still poor.
We take one step forwards and two steps back.

2 weeks to get a couple more back and have a real go against Wakey, hopefully can kick start us.
Is Gale back for Wakey?
That should make a big difference.

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Quote: Simmo71 "Yeh we all hope so.
Just so frustrating that we have a real go with a young side against Saints and Wigan and we’re all quite optimistic.
Then we get a few bodies back but are really poor against HKR and Hudds.
Yes, Hudds was a close game, but we were still poor.
We take one step forwards and two steps back.

2 weeks to get a couple more back and have a real go against Wakey, hopefully can kick start us.
Is Gale back for Wakey?
That should make a big difference.'"

Agar hopeful Gale back yeah. We'll be looking something more like.

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Quote: christopher "Leeming, who’s just been called into the England squad? That Leeming?'"



Do you really believe Leeming should be anywhere near an England side that has aspirations of winning the World Cup - we have Hodgson, Roby, Clark, McShane to name but 4 ahead of him. Is this same call up that include English and Wardle from the Giants - what does that tell you?

Lots of players get called up for training - he wont be anywhere the final squad neither will English or Wardle

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Do you really believe Leeming should be anywhere near an England side that has aspirations of winning the World Cup - we have Hodgson, Roby, Clark, McShane to name but 4 ahead of him. Is this same call up that include English and Wardle from the Giants - what does that tell you?

Lots of players get called up for training - he wont be anywhere the final squad neither will English or Wardle'"


You clearly know way more than Wane and the selectors. Fair play to you.....

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