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I will be amazed, surprised, but ultimately happy if we get anything close to the game last night. I have been highly critical of the Super League quality this year, but last night was the best by far. I doubt neither of tonight's teams, or Castleford, would have come within cooie of Saints and Wigan last night.

I said on here weeks ago that once Saints sorted their coaching out I still expected them to finish above us, and maintain that. Well done the Saints board for acting on their problem, and look like they may get a bonus out of it. Also Wigan, with still many missing, putting up that quality,

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Quote: Gotcha "I will be amazed, surprised, but ultimately happy if we get anything close to the game last night. I have been highly critical of the Super League quality this year, but last night was the best by far. I doubt neither of tonight's teams, or Castleford, would have come within cooie of Saints and Wigan last night.

I said on here weeks ago that once Saints sorted their coaching out I still expected them to finish above us, and maintain that. Well done the Saints board for acting on their problem, and look like they may get a bonus out of it. Also Wigan, with still many missing, putting up that quality,'"


Don't get why you include Cas in that they have been head and shoulders the best in the league and a joy to watch.

As for Saints, still not buying them as a threat. Poor back line in general. Barba should make a difference of course but i still think we have a better 17 when all are fit. Very early days on their new, unknown coach aswell. You normally always get a reaction when new changes are made like this so i will reserve judgement for a few months yet.

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They lost heavily to Cas and have then had a reaction that's included putting a big score on Hull and beating an injury hit Wigan at home........God I wish Leeds could've done that icon_wink.gif

Saints/Wigan games are never the best to judge how well they'll do in the rest of the season because they don't raise for other games in the same way they do for that fixture.

Whilst Wigan do very well in always being competitive regardless of injuries they still have only picked up 8 points from the last 22 on offer. They do need bodies back asap otherwise that form won't make the top 4.

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I'm with Gotcha - adding Barba to that side plus the introduction of Holbrook who looks like a "don't take any crap" type of coach and Saints will not be far away come the end of the season.

Last night's game was the best game in SL since 2015 - the standard and intensity as been unmatched - great game to watch.

In Percival they have the best centre in SL - in Morgan they have almost the worst zing and zang.

One thing is certain Saints basic skills will improve under an Aussie coach - Taia will either learn to catch and hold on to the ball or he wont get picked

For me the idea that Leeds have a better side at full strength than Saints doesn't hold water but its all about opinions.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "
For me the idea that Leeds have a better side at full strength than Saints doesn't hold water but its all about opinions.'"


I agree, regards opinions that is icon_smile.gif

Problem for us is we never seem to get close to having our best 17 on the field to see these days? this is what i would consider our strongest 17 at this point -

Golding
Briscoe
Watkins
Sutcliffe / Keinhorst
Hall
McGuire
Moon
Galloway
Parcell
Cuthbertson
Ferres
Ablett
Ward

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JJB / Keinhorst
Garbutt

For me, that side could more than match anyone in SL never mind Saints.. problem is the drop down in quality beyond that group is quite marked.

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I don't believe it could, but to be honest on paper is not really the issue. I said last week, on paper I would only swap five players from Cas, but lets be honest AS A TEAM they are far better. Paper means nothing, I don't believe Leeds or Cas at that, could play at the intensity of last nights game. Or at least they have not shown they could match that for the last eighteen months, not at any time. So if they did it would be a pleasant surprise.

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hope i am wrong but can see them turning us over tonight, leaving us with 1 win from last 4, pressure could be back on mcd and the team. another loos for them against a top 4 rival gives them a big hill to climb in super 8's

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Quote: rollin thunder "hope i am wrong but can see them turning us over tonight, leaving us with 1 win from last 4, pressure could be back on mcd and the team. another loos for them against a top 4 rival gives them a big hill to climb in super 8's'"


Think it'll be very close as well (gone for Leeds by 4 on the prediction league). Must win for Wire I feel after letting a point slip at the death vs Wigan at Magic. If they do beat us then the Super 8's is for the first time looking like it'll be a real close battle to get into the top 4 instead of the previous years when 5th/6th were comfortably behind and 7th/8th had no chance.

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I can't agree it weak in the halves and the backs 4 of the 6 are hardly top SL players. Would I rather have Warmsley Roby and Amor than the three you mentioned in a shot.

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Top 4 is already a monumental task for wire. They need about 26-30 points from 32 available. That's with them needing to play all the big boys at least once if not twice.

A Leeds win tonight and Wakefield loss this weekend and a gap opens up. If Salford keep timing over, car keep going and Leeds and Hull can get 6/7 wins out of the next 9 and the Super 8s will be over before they begin.

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Big shame for Golding that, he has been playing well the last couple of weeks. Sutcliffe is having a great game though.

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I talked about intensity earlier. Credit where due, you can't play down this defensive effort first half, excellent.

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Great effort first half cant fault it.hopefully we can keep it going and not fall away like last week.Good response from Briscoe, looked a bit like his former self.

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Good first half effort. Causing ourselves problems with some knock ons and gifting them good field position but the defence has performed really strong in response. Interesting time will be when Patton comes on, had a good game against us earlier in the year and their current halves aren't doing much so far. Briscoe seeing some ball, still a bit iffy though for me, putting up the high kick when going down the wing early on I didn't like and it might seem petty because we scored but he did make the wrong pass really to Parcell for the opening try when Sutcliffe had a walk in.

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Second half off games as been our major weakness most weeks hope we have addressed this matter.

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