That's not an acceptable position to take around here...

A legend of our club, who will be looked upon the same as the likes of Holmes. Can still see him playing for the next 3 years or so obviously barring any serious injury. His last game for us certainly will be an emotional one!

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Sorry

There were uneven match-ups each season but the same small group of teams didn't dominate the competitions like they do today. Similarly, the same teams weren't always whipping boys. Within my memory, I remember lots of teams being genuinely competitive and winning silverware from late 60's, 70's and 80's... Leigh, Fev, Cas, Wakey, Widnes, Fax, Salford, Dewsbury, Hull KR were all champions and/or CC winners as well as the usual SL suspects. Other clubs also picked up some of the less glamorous silverware on offer at the time... even Bramley!

Those with a shorter pre-SL memory than mine (and in some cases, conveniently so) will only remember the financially and psychologically damaging period of Wigan domination immediately prior to a huge media corporation (better known these days for setting the political agenda and hacking the phones of murder victims) buying up the the game lock, stock and barrel and demanding an elite 'super' competition to showcase. The best of the best each week was the plan - the reality has turned out to be very different as pretty much the same teams compete at the top year in, year out beating the usual whipping boy suspects 2 weeks out of every 3 and amassing team or individual points records in the process. As I opined in another thread, it seems entirely appropriate that Sinfield should break a points record in a SL fixture as predictably uneven and one-sided as the one on Friday.


It's a different game today where the rules have been modified in order to appeal to the whims of subscription TV, to speed up the game and provide attacking 'entertainment' as it's they who now own it. The skill factor in the game somehow got lost as a result of the 10 metre rule keeping teams apart so we are now left with a kind of Australian hybrid game of five drives or scoots from dummy half followed by a kick, but lacking in the requisite intensity due to lack of genuine competition and sufficient players of requisite quality.

On a more general note, if I'm going to apply bouquets or sermons of a reverential nature proclaiming greatness on the part of Leeds and their players, I'd rather do so under more appropriately-earned circumstances. IMO, this current Leeds squad could win 10 Super League titles but none of them will mean as much as the championship titles won in the late 60's and early 70's for one reason over and above anything else. When players like Shoebottom, Atkinson, Smith, Hynes, Holmes, Haigh, Fisher, Clawson, Jeanes et al were champions during a more competitively contested era, they were also beating Australia in an Ashes series and/or winning a World Cup. The current Super League lot are nowhere near to achieving that, not several years ago, not now and not in the foreseeable future either.

I fully expect all fans of the Super League product to disagree with everything I've said of course

Pipe down keith.

I'm quite new to this site so can anybody tell me why this Keith bloke even bothers to watch Rugby League as he seems to quite dislike it?

Yes there were some easier matches too in the one division era. However I recall visiting Tattersfield Field, Clarence Street, Crown Flat and Mount Pleasant etc and having some almighty tussles, as it was their annual cup final when they played Leeds.

In my view there was just as great a concentration on try scoring and entertainment in the pre SL times. I do not have the comparative stats to show the number of tries scores in each era but I know Brian Bevan scored almost 800 trys in an 18 years and Eric Harris scord almost 400 in 9 years including 63 one year. I would say that individual attacking skills were better in the Jones era and certainly there were bigger crowds.

It's a truism but all records are meant to be broken.
It's only keyboard warriors who've never achieved anything of note in their own lives who pontificate about how the new record is somehow inferior to the old.
I'm absolutely convinced that Lewis Jones will be extremely gracious & complimentary in acknowledging Kevin Sinfield's feat.
The only record I believe that will never be broken is that of Sir Donald Bradman, but even he recognised the special talents of Gavaskar & Tendulkar.
Upon further reflection I can think of two further relevant records that I don't believe I'll see beaten in my lifetime, John Holmes' Leeds appearance record & Neil Fox's overall points scoring record.

Just read what he say's then move on to more positive post's

Why do you bother with Rugby League at all, really?

If you honestly believe the product that is served is vastly inferior to that of yesteryear then why try to digest it?

My gran stopped eating chicken several years ago as she said "it just doesn't have the same taste as it used to", you are allowed to NOT watch Rugby League, you know that, right?

I was fanatical about football when i was a lot younger, disliked what the game had become so I stopped following it, makes sense really.

Lamb chops over here dont taste as nice as they do at home,very bland taste.Cant wait to get home and have some proper tasty lamb chops.The beer is awful too ,but cant wait to get home for Easter to see some Rugby league,my enthusiasm has not waned

Breaking a 50 year record is a fantastic acheivement. Breaking a record held by someone with Lewis Jone's class is a fantastic achevement.

Super League has been going 16 years and has had 4 different teams win the championship. In the ten years preceeding Super League two different teams had been champions. That is what super league was trying to address, not the previous 90 year history of the game.

In the 10 years prior to Super League there were three teams that won the challenge cup. In the first ten years of super league six different teams won the challenge cup.

Not that ANY of the above has any relevance to the acheivement of Sir Kev.

Away from any derailing, well done Sinfield model professional, exceptional leader and rugby player.

Sorry to repeat my post on another thread but Sinfield deserves it on his own Sir Kev thread.

Well done Kevin. It is entirely appropriate that he should be the one to overtake the record set by one of our greatest legends. I hope Lewis is able to present some memento to Kevin at a future home game. I have been privileged to witness many of the points scored by both players who apart from their class on the field are/were unassuming role models off the field.