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Quote: Gotcha "Not one player in that team works has hard as JJB, not one. His work rate is immense. He runs his blood to water for the cause.

That said, he is put simply not that great. It is like comparing Ratchford with Ellis for example, a non comparison.

JJB does far too much work for this team, and his game becomes so non-effective because of it. Look at his average meter making per carry, it is non existent. That's because his team mates are so damn lazy that he always has to make the carries, and he does not carry the weight and power to win a collission.

I wonder what would happen with him if he was an impact sub and his team mates took on more of the work load. He could very well be the player you were wanting, the big threat.'"

Agree with this , also we need Ablett back in the SR asap wasted at Centre imo.
I'd have a back row of Delaney ,Ablett with Sinfield at 13 with Jjb and Clarky off the bench.

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Quote: leicester_rhino "you take him, peacock, and sinfield out of that team and no one does any work'"

I would add ablett to that list as well.

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Quote: Ferdy "I would add ablett to that list as well.'"


I was speaking to Harry Jepson at the weekend and he rates Ablett as one of his top ever players. His words were... "He's sacrificed his career for the sake of this club. In and out of the squad, in and out of position, never in the limelight, all for the sake of playing for the club he loves and 110% every week."

I wholeheartedly agree.

I'm pleased that Abbo is starting to get his praises sung a bit more.

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "I was speaking to Harry Jepson at the weekend and he rates Ablett as one of his top ever players. His words were... "He's sacrificed his career for the sake of this club. In and out of the squad, in and out of position, never in the limelight, all for the sake of playing for the club he loves and 110% every week."

I wholeheartedly agree.

I'm pleased that Abbo is starting to get his praises sung a bit more.'"


Agreed whole-heartedly.

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Quote: tvoc "............... Leeds ..... Les Catalans
Metres Made .......... 889 ..... 1258
Carries .......... 162 ..... 212
Tackles .......... 319 ..... 233
Offloads .......... 12 ..... 7
Attacking Kicks .......... 8 ..... 9
Runs from Dummy Half .......... 11 ..... 31
Tackle Busts .......... 16 ..... 15
Marker Tackles .......... 50 ..... 28
Clean Breaks .......... 6 ..... 5
40/20 .......... 0 ..... 1
Kicks In General Play .......... 16 ..... 14
Missed Tackles .......... 15 ..... 15
Errors Made .......... 15 ..... 16
Penalties Conceded .......... 12 ..... 4'"


Using these stats, the ones that stand out are penalties conceded, runs from dummy half and the face Leeds had to make 86 more tackles and 22 more marker tackles than the Dragons meant a fatigue factor would kick in, but Leeds lead in some of the stats and some of the stats some coaches see as important, offloads, tackle busts, clean breaks.

For me, the one area Catalans dominated was in and around the play the ball, the amount of runs from dummy half back that up.

Perhaps TVOC, the stats are lying to us in that the game should have read a lot closer on the score board than actually happened?

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Quote: Cala Millor Rhino "
For me, the one area Catalans dominated was in and around the play the ball, the amount of runs from dummy half back that up.
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But Leeds have the greatest hooker, if not player in the world. Surely Leeds should be more dominant in and around the play the ball every week. You're not saying an NRL nobody like Henderson outshone Buderus are you?

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I bet if you'd have substituted Henderson into our team on Sunday though he would have looked no where near as good behind our 'awesome' pack creating all that great go forward and quick PTB's

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Quote: G1 "But Leeds have the greatest hooker, if not player in the world. Surely Leeds should be more dominant in and around the play the ball every week. You're not saying an NRL nobody like Henderson outshone Buderus are you?'"


No, he's saying that if you have props who hit the line hard, push their nose through and then find their elbows and knees, then any old Tom Noddy can look good out of dummy half, but you already knew that even though it doesn't fit your agenda.

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Quote: batleyrhino "No, he's saying that if you have props who hit the line hard, push their nose through and then find their elbows and knees, then any old Tom Noddy can look good out of dummy half, but you already knew that even though it doesn't fit your agenda.'"

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How very predictable that the excuses roll out for Buderus failing to dominate a game, yet again, and be outshone by a lesser opponent, yet again. It couldn't possibly be his fault. It must be someone else's.

Buderus should be serving on the front line in Afghanistan. It would appear he's bullet proof.

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Quote: G1 "How very predictable that the excuses roll out for Buderus failing to dominate a game, yet again, and be outshone by a lesser opponent, yet again. It couldn't possibly be his fault. It must be someone else's.

Buderus should be serving on the front line in Afghanistan. It would appear he's bullet proof.'"


Was one of your best players I thought, playing behind a joke pack performance.

Henderson's performance was based entirely on his pack's go-forward and quick PTBs. Buderus was royally shafted by his fellow forwards.

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Quote: G1 "How very predictable that the excuses roll out for Buderus failing to dominate a game, yet again, and be outshone by a lesser opponent, yet again. It couldn't possibly be his fault. It must be someone else's.

Buderus should be serving on the front line in Afghanistan. It would appear he's bullet proof.'"



Interesting. Considering you continually post the same rubbish excuse when unsuccessfully trying to defend that underperforming number 7 we have. I guess the excuse only counts when it is your agenda?

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Quote: Gotcha "Interesting. Considering you continually post the same rubbish excuse when unsuccessfully trying to defend that underperforming number 7 we have. I guess the excuse only counts when it is your agenda?'"

When have I defended McGuire's recent inept displays?

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Quote: G1 "When have I defended McGuire's recent inept displays?'"


When did McGuire where the number 7 shirt again?

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Quote: Gotcha "When did McGuire where the number 7 shirt again?'"


He's played scrum half in our last two defeats/matches.

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