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| Anyone who has watched his input over the last year or two. To counter your point, are you suggesting that he is still one of the top props in SL? Actually, who do you see as the top 6 props in SL?
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Anyone who has watched his input over the last year or two. '"
That's me and about 13,000 other Leeds fans then. So, you speak for all of us do you?
Quote: batleyrhino "To counter your point, are you suggesting that he is still one of the top props in SL?'" What point are you countering? I've asked who the "we" was that knew Kylie was past his best for two years.
Quote: batleyrhino "Actually, who do you see as the top 6 props in SL?'" Does that have anything to do with whether Kylie has been past his best for two years, whether "we" have all known that or anything we've been discussing to this point?
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| Now then Andy and bloodbath, lets face it to be best prop on field against Crusaders wouldn't have been hard the way we played/were playing. In my opinion we need considerably better options not saying he's poor but don't think he's right for us, his he better than Cross?
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Just looked at some stats and Moore concedes far too many errors and gives away far too many penalties. Worse than any of our current props.
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| Quote: digger47 "Now then Andy and bloodbath, lets face it to be best prop on field against Crusaders wouldn't have been hard the way we played/were playing. In my opinion we need considerably better options not saying he's poor but don't think he's right for us, his he better than Cross?'"
In the games against Crusaders Moore stood out as one of the best forward performers on that pitch. I made this point on here then, it's not a retrospective pat on the back. I call it as I see it. He made a dent, played well and stood out. Fact, if you like. My position on Moore is quite clear, he wouldn't add much added value in taking us back to that next level. But small, subtle, improvements within the balance of a squad - you can get there in instalments. I mean IMO, Moore is a better prop than Cross (of course) and Biff (slighty harder to call) so Moore could fill the gap of bodies of who have left with a better playing option. But the counter point (re: the blooding of Singleton and the usage of Ambler and Amor - then squad age) is probably the determining factor as to why Moore shouldn't be signed, or considered to be signed.
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| Quote: G1 "Just looked at some stats and Moore concedes far too many errors and gives away far too many penalties. Worse than any of our current props.'"
That's that then.
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| with the age group leeds are looking at perhaps we can tempt Barrie Mac out of retirement!
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| Do be fair, if you do sign Moore (along with the done deal with Griffin) your pack looks a lot tougher than this year. Griffin, Bailey, Moore, Leu Lai and Peacock will have a lot more biff and toughness than you've had this year. OK he's 30, but it doesn't really matter for a prop. Griffin & Moore will run hard onto the ball and provide you with some grunt and aggression (unlike our powder puff props)
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Do be fair, if you do sign Moore (along with the done deal with Griffin) your pack looks a lot tougher than this year. Griffin, Bailey, Moore, Leu Lai and Peacock will have a lot more biff and toughness than you've had this year. OK he's 30, but it doesn't really matter for a prop. Griffin & Moore will run hard onto the ball and provide you with some grunt and aggression (unlike our powder puff props)'"
It's ok mate, hopefully you'll sign a few bang average Aussie forwards to go with your two new bang average Aussie backs.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Do be fair, if you do sign Moore (along with the done deal with Griffin) your pack looks a lot tougher than this year. Griffin, Bailey, Moore, Leu Lai and Peacock will have a lot more biff and toughness than you've had this year. OK he's 30, but it doesn't really matter for a prop. Griffin & Moore will run hard onto the ball and provide you with some grunt and aggression (unlike our powder puff props)'"
That is a pretty tough looking front row if you ask me.
Add Ablett, JJB, Clarkson, Sinfield and Kirke to the back row and the combo of McShane/Hood/Burrow at hooker and you have an all English pack bar Kylie!
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| Quote: "It's ok mate, hopefully you'll sign a few bang average Aussie forwards to go with your two new bang average Aussie backs.'"
Nope.
We have on all English pack bar L'estrange. Hargreaves, Lynch, Diskin, Scruton, Kopczak, Langley Sibbitt etc while bringing in some top draw youngsters as Whitehead, Donaldson, Bateman, Tom Burgess. But if you want to keep on harping about our Australians players rather than the juniors we're bringing through you keep doing that.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Nope.
We have on all English pack bar L'estrange. Hargreaves, Lynch, Diskin, Scruton, Kopczak, Langley Sibbitt etc while bringing in some top draw youngsters as Whitehead, Donaldson, Bateman, Tom Burgess. But if you want to keep on harping about our Australians players rather than the juniors we're bringing through you keep doing that.'"
No, you should be rightly commended for playing those players mate.
The likes of Lulia & Purtill, however, should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Please note that I'm not getting at Bradford personally, because every club in the league is just as bad.
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| Fair enough. But centres are a problem for us, they aren't any about. No SL side can attract top draw overseas players. Purtell is 26, Lulia is 24 so both are here in their prime and particulary Lulia, looks better than a lot of centres currently playing over here. We don't really have any centres coming through at the minute. But i think Lulia could surprise a few people.
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| Quote: Wheels "No, you should be rightly commended for playing those players mate.
The likes of Lulia & Purtill, however, should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Please note that I'm not getting at Bradford personally, because every club in the league is just as bad.'"
Cant be any worse than Brett Delaney, surley?
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| Quote: Bulls4Champs2010 "Cant be any worse than Brett Delaney, surley?'"
Exactly. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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