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Hang on

slow down a bit, are we really suggesting a coach who won a trophy for us 11 years ago, really?!

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According to Wikipedia
Graham Murray (born 6 January 1955) is an Australian rugby league player and coach. Murray is currently the coach of the Australian national women's team

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Quote: Lawrie L "Hang on

slow down a bit, are we really suggesting a coach who won a trophy for us 11 years ago, really?!'"

Who would you suggest Loz and why not Murray?

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Quote: batleyrhino "If results, and for me more importantly performances, are to continue to decline at what point will the fans start to call for him to be sacked during a match?'"


To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if we hear something like that soon - I was surprised when the southstand were chanting "we want Burrow" at the Wolves match - another few results and bizarre selection decisions like that and I think we could here some chants against BM

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Quote: Johnny Rabbit "To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if we hear something like that soon - I was surprised when the southstand were chanting "we want Burrow" at the Wolves match - another few results and bizarre selection decisions like that and I think we could here some chants against BM'"


I think we could be hearing some soon especially if weird squad selections carry on especially if some certain in form players are still missing.

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Quote: Lawrie L "Hang on

slow down a bit, are we really suggesting a coach who won a trophy for us 11 years ago, really?!'"



yes why not!?

he has the great knack all great coaches have of making average players into good players and average teams in to very good teams. look what he did at the roosters and the cowboys. his players would run through walls for him, he gets the best out of them, a great motivator and tactitian.

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Quote: Ferdy "Could not argue with the choice of murry but didn't he leave with a bit of cloud?'"


The only leaving under a cloud bit was the perception by GH that Murray was messing the club about by announcing he was going off to North Sydney and then not staying with Leeds when North Sydney were kicked out of the league.

On the other hand, he was more than happy to take Murray when Super League were paying a chunk of his salary after the SL War down under (see also why we got Dean Lance, when the smart money recommended Millward to the board)

Whilst I'd have had Murray here just after Easter, GH will have to eat a bit of a lump of humble pie to get him back, however Muzza has made no secret that if he had the chance, he'd be back at Leeds in a shot and given that one of the reasons for going home to Oz in 1999 was the age of his children and their education, that's certainly not going to be a worry now.

IMO, the reason that the '99 campaign ended when it did was that the steamrollering Leeds pack at the end of the season, were just about dead on their feet. This was coupled by Terry Newton copping a ban in the run up to the playoffs and we were on our bare bones. It could be argued that after the biggest Wembley pay day in Leeds history, the club again played it safe by merely bringing in the available Keith Senior, but did not spend any more than they had to of their resources on a couple of extra players to bolster the pack.

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Quote: totalloiner "yes why not!?

he has the great knack all great coaches have of making average players into good players and average teams in to very good teams. look what he did at the roosters and the cowboys. his players would run through walls for him, he gets the best out of them, a great motivator and tactitian.'"


Jeez, why pick them as an example ?

He made Andy Hay look test class ... What more do you need for the great man's credentials ?

The 'great' coaches make average teams look better than the sum of all their parts. Murray at Leeds, TS at Huddersfield etc.

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Quote: Ferdy "I think it's verging on that at the moment. Especially if we contine to lose against the perceived "lesser" teams.'"


Let's put it this way, I wouldn't like to predict the reaction if we go in behind against Hull KR at home next Sunday ....

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Quote: Johnny Rabbit "To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if we hear something like that soon - I was surprised when the southstand were chanting "we want Burrow" at the Wolves match - another few results and bizarre selection decisions like that and I think we could here some chants against BM'"


From what I hear, those could be as soon as the Hull KR game next Sunday, if things don't go well in the first half and we go in behind ....

All together now : "Foxy, Foxy Foxy ... OUT ! OUT ! OUT !" icon_wink.gif

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Murray would be my choice but can't see it happening. Surely other SL clubs would have made enquiries by now if he was really interested in coming back? Leeds may be a bonus factor for him though if GH can swallow humble pie who knows? (camel & eye of a needle spring to mind)

I maintain that Leeds should have gone for Mick Potter. A lot of Saints fans hated him because he didn't buy into their 'entertainers' style but he still got them into a top 2 finish and GF appearance last season, even without Leon Pryce and a few others. He did a pretty decent job at the Catalans before Walters stuffed everything up. Seems like someone good at managing transitions - although there is much to be done at Bradford.

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "The only leaving under a cloud bit was the perception by GH that Murray was messing the club about by announcing he was going off to North Sydney and then not staying with Leeds when North Sydney were kicked out of the league. '"


We were pretty (although not as bad as now!) at the end of Murray's time here. It was right to change at that point.

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "From what I hear, those could be as soon as the Hull KR game next Sunday, if things don't go well in the first half and we go in behind ....

All together now : "Foxy, Foxy Foxy ... OUT ! OUT ! OUT !"

icon_lol.gif Oh dear. That brings back some unpleasant memories. Didn't we avoid relegation on points difference that year?

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As a few have mentioned earlier, Daniel Anderson could be a good shout. Apart from his record at Saints which wasn't too shabby, anyone who can coach two notoriously underachieving NRL clubs to Grand Final appearances must have something going for him.

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Quote: Richie "We were pretty poop (although not as bad as now!) at the end of Murray's time here. It was right to change at that point.'"
The bulk of that team never had any long-term life in it. Poor Dean Lance starred in the former-day McDermott role with comedic consequences. What planks did Murray lay for the future?

1999 is also a reminder of the difficulty of a team peaking at the right time - Warrington beware... That year we were off with a bang on the first day of the season with 12 men vs Wigan in the cup at home, then dominated the league after Wembley until Russell Smith intervened vs St Helens in July IIRC.

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