If you're looking for me to be entirely serious.... Buderus would always be my FIRST name on the team sheet.

He'd make a terrible full-back.
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I said Carl Ablett always reminded me of Paul Medley.

Whether that is interpreted as a positive or a negative is a matter of personal choice.

I really expect you lot to kick on now you have a decent squad to pick from - injuries cost you in the cup and play-offs last season and I think Wire/Wigan fans got a little ahead of themselves when winning trophies with Saints/Leeds decimated in key positions.

We'll also see how good a coach BM is now, as a reasonably fit Leeds squad should be doing things in this league, regardless of the fact a few are a bit long in the tooth. There's a huge amount of quality in that Leeds side.

Here's hoping we can join you with a decent squad soon enough, close to making a very handy 13 out of our injuries at the mo:

1. Wellens
2. ?
3. Wheeler
4. Eastmond
5. Makinson
6. Gaskell
7. Lomax
8. Perry
9. Moore
10. Clough
11. Flannery
12. ?
13. Pryce

Given some good health, Leeds and Saints will take some beating come the business end IMO.

That didn't stop Willie Oulton making a career out of it.

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Paul Medley ? In looks or performance ? Medley was a long range swift runner..... Ablett is more like the " bionic barrel " with the same grace but more pace.

Sorry to all patting themselves so heartily on the back but as handy as Ablett is he will never be as good as Ellis.
G1 I agree that Delaney does in the second row what he has always done at centre. Good lines, good leg drive, strong front on tackling. The thing is, that these are qualites that suit a second rower very well. A centre needs footwork and the rugby brain and handling skill to be able to put a winder in space. Sadly Delaney has neither and whoever plays outside him when at centre is a virtual passenger. He is an absolute carthorse at centre, but carthorses tend to make decent backrowers.

It seems almost every team has an abundance of 2nd rowers these days, they really do seem to grow on tree's!

Tree's what ?

How old is Ablett again...25?
Ellis is 30, made his GB debut at 22/23 and was in the SL dream team at 27.

Tick Tock Carl.

Joel Tomkins, the only back rower that will get as good as or near to Ellis.

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Joel Tompkins???

Can you honestly see that happening cos i cant?

I would pick Watkins at LC with either Delaney or Ablett at RC, but can you see that pairing happening this season?

It's got more chance that any combination including Waktins. I'll be calling Watkins Waktins myself from now on though, I quite like it.

I never said he was as good as Ellis. He was our ready made replacement for Ellis. He's a very different player to Ellis. Whilst he hasn't reached the heights Ellis did (yet) he does posses certain attributes that are better than Ellis.