webbs been poor since he had Gary over a barrel on his first big contract extension. The fact that Smith was out performing him in the FB role back in 2k8 and his poor to average form since I was amazed he got another deal when he have a better FB in BJB. He has 2 or 3 good games a year and cruises along the rest. We signed Brent Webb the international full back dangerous on kick returns a game changer. He's now paycheck "can't beat a man" Brent the 2nd/3rd best full back at Leeds.

When does Webb EVER beat the first man on a kick return?
When does he come up big in defence? That rangi no tackle was like watching soft cock Scott Donald.
How many penalities does he give away??

About the only thing he is good for is being a useful pair of hands in the final 3rd*

If we want to be great again we have to ask ourselves would xyz player walk into a top teams side? If the answer is no then he isnt good enough. In Webbs case he isnt even the best FB in our team. Let him cruise out his days at Salford or Bradford give the duites to BJB/Smith and spend the moeny elsewhere imo.

*when he isnt passing a mile forrrwarrrrd

This is inaccurate. Webb's performances in the last couple of years have nothing to do with him getting a good contract deal. Have you forgotten the serious back injury he sustained before the 2008 GF? He's never been the same as a player since - he's lost most of his former physicality in the tackle and at least a yard of pace as well. I'd hoped he would get over this injury but it doesn't look like happening now.

I'm not gutted in the slightest. It makes perfect sense. He's been one of our better players this year. 1 more year to develop BJB and give us some experience in what will be a very inexperienced threequarter line. Also one of our more creative "halves".

And I would give him no more than 10% blame for the Chase try.

15% goes to BJB for not scoring on the previous break. He should have. It was a 12 point turnaround and because Cas hit us straight away a couple of tackles later Clarkson was still blowing out of his arris. And Clarkson gets 75% of the blame. None goes to Sinfield. He didn't take Chase's dummy, he slide out to the attacker he was meant to take. His job is not to slide in whilst everyone else slides out.

In fact, why are we apportioning blame? It was just a great read and spot by Chase and a great finish. To emphasize the point I make about BJB, compare Chase's finish on the outside with much less room, btw.

Give over! Clarkson was partly at fault but not 75%! A player of his experience (i.e. not much) and given that he's not exactly the quickest on his feet to get stepped by Chase isn't exactly critical.

Webb should've known better. He should've at least made an attempt to tackle him instead of running backwards and pointing to try and make it look like everyone else was at fault.

Webb's time is up. It would've been a tough call and not one without a tear in the eye after his great service to the club (very similar to the call that's just been made about Ali) but a call that needed to be made nonetheless. We will regret having him in our squad, making mistakes, holding back the youngsters and contributing to cap space next season.

What, disagreeing with you? Never!

He wasn't stepped. He was taken on the outside because he made a lazy retreat back to the line. He was blowing because of BJBs break that he failed to finish.

There's a lot of reason's that try was scored and they didn't just start when Chase beat Webb to the corner.

The "blame" with Clarkson is for not getting back and set in the defensive line quickly enough after being involved in the tackle. That's what put him off balance and allowed Chase to get around him so easily.

I appreciate it didn't start when Chase beat Webb to the corner, and that other players were at fault (including BJB, Clarkson etc) for Chase getting to the corner in the first place.

All I'm saying is that, once Chase had GOT to the corner, it is well within Webb's (at his best) skill set to have been able to tackle him. Comfortably. And he didn't. Because he is long since past his best. And yet we've renewed his contract.

Let's face it. It's not the first time this season that Webb could have tackled someone to save a try and has inexplicably either made a poor effort, or not bothered.

He did tackle him, just as he got to the line. Webb had the devils own job once he'd broken through. He had inside support. The next inside Leeds defender was Ryan Bailey. Yes Ryan bailey.

It was just an excellent finish. I am in no way critical of Webb foir his defence on that play. You are. I am glad we've re-signed Webb/ You are not. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

If BJB gets the No. 1 squad number next year and Webb is used as cover, then fair enough.

Surely, as Full Back, Webb has to force Chase into making a play rather than standing off him and letting him dictate. In the collision there is a lot more scope to break up the play.

In my opinion BJB has good experience and by the start of next season he will have seen even more of Super League, he needs to be first choice full back.

Webb as cover? How much of our salary cap is he going to take up though?? If it has been negotiated at a lesser rate then perhaps.

Agreed. We both know that isn't going to happen.



Yep. My point exactly. He could've/should've done a whole lot more given he was at one time the best FB in the league. Running backwards and pointing is just like making his excuses before he's even made the mistake. Nobody would've blamed him for attempting the tackle and getting stepped, dummied, whatever. Just watching Chase run around him however... not good enough.

The more I consider him re-signing the more I don't like the decision. He has done some special things, but has stood out very little this year. He will clearly be first choice again next year.

To be honest, this is exactly what I don't want decision makers thinking. I couldn't care less how much we're paying any player to sit in the stands if they're not performing on the field. I'd prefer to drop any player that has strung together a series of poor performances if we have adequate cover.

I agree, but they have taken him on another contract. I would like to see BJB given the reins at full back and I can't see that happening with Webb at the club. It's a shame cos he has been so good in the past, but time to move on for me.