Another 4 carry display from Kirke. Need I say more?

For what they are worth the stats don't look too bad apart from mistakes made and attacking kicks which kind of dictated how the game panned out, cheap turn overs and no final play so warrington only had to cover 60m to score.

That looks like a very impressive workload from the Wire forwards Westwood and Harrison, whilst we have only Hauraki to break the 100 metres carry.

Perhaps a point to ponder......

Our overall team performance compares well against Warrington.

The two things that stand out for me are firstly our lack of a good kicking game and secondly the number of errors we are making. Both of these IMO are more the players responsibilty than the coaches.

With regard to individual performances as Gotch has pointed out Hauraki has missed 11 tackles in 3 games and you have to add the fact that he has also given the ball away including interceptions.

But there were big efforts from JJB, Burgess and Ablett but only 4 carries from Kirke who is supposed to be playing as a prop. And why is Clarkson not on the field longer with Ali used as an impact player?

Webb only made 4 tackles with 2 misses. These are not good stats for a full back of a team letting in 40 points.

How many times has Hall made less than 100m in a game tvoc? Just out of interest because there can't be many wingers who get through the work he does. And to say they normally kick to the opposite side of the field too.

Surely it is up to the coach to spell the players more effectively in this case. Or are you suggesting he was just hanging back and refusing to take the ball up?

Weller Hauraki missed a lot of tackles last year too. I'm not sure how Opta define it, but anyway here are the stats (his other stats are pretty impressive, btw, but notice also 3 Harlequins players in the 2010 missed tackle top 6)

rlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1

He certainly does not display an appetite for taking the ball up and has no fire about him at all.

Spot on.

This is not an unusual statistic for Kirke. It's the 2nd time this season he's made 4 carries in a game.

As Juan says, he has no appetite whatsoever for ball. Since the end of 2009 he's been a complete waste of a jersey. People thought I was conducting some kind of vendetta last year. Now more are seeing it. Lazy, softcock. No other word for it.

Brett Hodgson hasn't started particularly well in Wire colours has he. We were talking about this watching the match on Sat. Also, I think I heard announced in the background, unless my ears deceived me, that he got the sponsors MoM on the night. Which, if true, is bizarre to say the least.

[i"Our overall team performance compares well against Warrington." [/i

Really? I would have thought shipping in 7 tries a pretty poor attempt at competing, and makes for a poor comparison.

As for Gotcha, and his instant recall of the number of tackles that Hauraki has made/missed so far this season, I'll simply leave it that he thought Sinny was sensational and inventive last week......

You may also have missed that Hauraki was the only forward to offer us any go forward. You praise JJB, Burgess and Ablett for a big performance, all of it in the tackling dept, and sadly behind the much malined Hauraki as far as taking the ball in, and way behind the shift Westwood and Harrison put in. Now THAT was a performance.

Lack of a good kicking game.....poor use of the subs...... etc, can be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches door IMHO

This may be a tongue in cheek comment but I find this post extremely offensive. Please explain how anything I have posted on this messageboard can be construed as racist, covert or otherwise.

I've been using this board for a longer than most, and have sung Bailey's praises in the past when it was unfashionable to do so, long before he was given a silly nickname that made him something of a cult player. I like Bailey and FWIW think he makes a valuable contribution to the team (yes, more so than Kirke!), but I also think that just because he has become a fan favourite doesn't exempt him from criticism. 'TMFMISL' should be doing more to justify this tag (when he is fit, naturally), and holding this view has nothing to do with racism. If you can't handle reasonable debate about your hero, try to engage with the arguments at hand instead of playing the race card.

I'd love it if Bailey came back and took over Peacock's job as pack leader, but the evidence suggests that he has a long way to go. I'd also love him to get picked for England to wind up the Aussies, but to do this he's going to need to develop a few more strings to his bow.