With a group of players not of his choosing and joining the club over halfway through the season? Expecting 2 points next Friday, up the reds.

To be honest here, we are on to our 4th coaching set up in little over a season. McD had run his course, sinny/Lowe's did not do any better but then they were a stop gap, top choice Furner didn't cut it and now Agar.

The reality is, and we all know this so lord knows we we keep having this conversation, but the club has taken their eye off the ball for a long time and the damage takes a long time to fix.

Sure, let's get rid of Agar, but then what?

Buckle of folks, this is going to take a while to get through.

Correct Tad

He was sat twiddling his thumbs when Leeds appointed agar.......

but he isnt related to hetherington....

Does it ever work going back ones old club to coach?

usually not. my point is its a quality coach, rather than who it is.
we have, to quote others, a poundland coach

Agar is a decent manager but it will be interesting to see how he comes when/if Leeds hit poor form this season (and no, we can't say that just yet after 1 game).

We have picked up a few NRL "bargains" - players Agar spotted during his time over there and where the club feels we might have some value for money.

What we haven't done really is bring in true Marquee players. I can't count Gale here because coming off the back of his injuries, there's a way to go for him yet.

We can go round in circles all we like on this but our players simply aren't good enough at present. Some of the young lads should/might be in another season or three. Some of our seniors are decent enough squad players. But we lack real quality in the here and now.

Personally I'd be lining up a recognised coach to replace Agar for 2021, when actually if we make one or two more astute signings, we may be looking something like again. We have several senior players off contract then and I expect us to have some funds to play with.

What is annoying is the likes of Saints, Wire, Wigan who were similar to us have got out of the mire by making astute signings and or had faith in their Academy.
Now correct me if I am wrong but didn`t we have a decent Academy with some promising youngsters only a step away?
These youngsters are now playing DR.
So we are in this mess due to poor management and or coaching whilst others have improved we have stood still or gone backwards.
Appointing your mates in to jobs that they cannot do will see us slip even further behind imo.

Pretty good assessment that. We got it wrong with Merrin (in the he didnt really want to be here) and Hurrell isnt worth marquee money for me. I'm not saying hes poor, far from it, but not quite worth marquee.

I know who I would sooner have.

What a difference 6 or so weeks makes.

Hull look an absolute shambles, how Wire haven’t put 60 on them I don’t know!